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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:34 pm

RVAIDYA2000@rvaidya2000

Many miss main point--After SC gave permission y day for centre to take over all properties of Dawood in Mumbai---impeachment motion comes today--Understand the real power wielder and motive:))))))))))))))))))))))))))) RT

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It is based on this tweet I made a point in @republic tv! Thanks sir.

The momeny @MRVChennai brought fact of seizure of Dawood's property, NCP spokesperson jumped in to debate to rebut M R V
This speaks loud and clear #CongAttacksCJI

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:13 pm

This is what I was saying earlier
harish v nair @harishvnair1

#ImpeachmentMotion Cong set to move SC against VP's rejection of impeachment motion against CJI Misra but their favourite four senior -most judges made themselves ineligible to hear it
If CJI has to punt then the 4 rogue too will have to punt.

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Post by chetak » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:17 pm

CJI Impeachment: The Biggest Threat To Judicial Independence May Well Be Lawyers Like Sibal & Co

by R Jagannathan

Apr 23, 2018,
Snapshot
If you want to immobilise or embarrass a judge of the Supreme Court, just get 50 signatures of Rajya Sabha members (or 100 from the Lok Sabha), and then tell him he cannot sit on a bench any more. Thus, any party with 50-100 members can destroy judicial independence.
Who or what is the greatest threat to the independence of the judiciary? The executive? Powerful politicians? Money power? The answer may be someone else. But before we tell you about this cabal, consider the following points.

Many tears were shed over threats to the independence of the judiciary when the Modi government enacted the National Judicial Appointments Commission (NJAC); our eyes didn’t even moisten when six out of every seven retiring Supreme Court judges were given cushy post-retirement jobs by the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government after 2008.

So, no threat to the independence of the judiciary here?

There has been much brouhaha over the Chief Justice of India (CJI) allotting benches to suit litigants, including the government; there was no whisper of protest when public interest litigants like Prashant Bhushan and others of his ilk tried to post the same petition twice with specific judges when their previous petitions were assigned to other benches. In November last year, a three-judge Supreme Court bench was scandalised when a PIL filed by Bhushan and assigned to one bench by the CJI was again presented to Justice J Chelameswar by another litigant, Kamini Jaiswal, since the petitioners obviously thought he was more likely to give them what they wanted: a special probe into the grant of an illegal permission to a medical college, in which members of the higher judiciary may be involved.

So, Bhushan and Co are objecting to only one kind of forum-shopping. Your kind of forum shopping is wrong, our kind is right.


In December 2017, Kapil Sibal – the man behind the current impeachment proceedings of the CJI – demanded a two-year postponement on hearings in the Ram Janmabhoomi case since he didn’t want the verdict to impact the 2019 elections. Earlier, when the Supreme Court revived an old criminal conspiracy case against LK Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi and others who were present during the demolition of the Babri Masjid, the court, in fact, ordered the trial to be completed within two years. This means the verdict will come just in the midst of the 2019 general elections.

So, a Babri verdict is fine before polls, but not a Ram Mandir verdict. And no one sees anything wrong in asking the highest court to deliberately delay a judgment to suit someone’s political convenience, but there is no problem if verdicts convenient to them are expedited. Let’s be clear, whichever way the court rules on Advani and Co, the Congress-Left ecosystem will benefit; if they are convicted, the cabal will say justice is done; if they are not, they will say justice has not been done and the court is biased. Both work as election rhetoric.

In December, a five-judge bench hearing sensitive cases was constrained to warn senior counsel that shouting and raising voices in a threatening manner in their courtrooms was unacceptable. In November, Prashant Bhushan stormed out of court after a spat with the CJI. In December, hot words were exchanged – and the dramatis personae were Prashant Bhushan, Kapil Sibal, Dushyant Dave and Rajeev Dhavan.

In February this year, while hearing the petition in the allegedly suspicious death of CBI Judge BH Loya, Dushyant Dave had an ugly confrontation with the Supreme Court bench. When Justice DY Chandrachud asked him to pipe down and listen when the bench was making a point, Dave shot back: “I will not listen to you.”

In February 2015, when the Gujarat High Court allowed the police to seek custodial interrogation of Teesta Setalvad in a funds diversion case involving her NGO, within hours the Supreme Court was moved for anticipatory bail by Kapil Sibal. The regular application was heard the next day by a two-judge bench, which gave Teesta a week’s bail. But before the case came up again for hearing on 19 February, the case was moved to another bench headed by the then CJI.

So, what Kapil Sibal wants, he usually gets from the court. No case of undue influence or independence of the judiciary here?

The point of all these observations is simple: we can talk about the executive’s attempts to suborn the judiciary, but we also have to consider another reality: the biggest threat to the independence of the judiciary may well be coming from powerful senior lawyers who deal with these judges daily and behave as they please with the court. If you can shout and scream at judges, barge into the CJI’s court and demand anticipatory bail for people you want to favour, if you can tell the judge “I will not listen to you” and then try and fool the system by presenting your petition to a judge of your choice after the case has been given to another, clearly senior counsel in the old ecosystem are as big a threat to the independence of the judiciary as anyone else. They think they can get away with anything.

In 2010, Shanti Bhushan, Prashant Bhushan’s father, gave the court a sealed cover containing a list of eight former CJIs who he thought were corrupt. When a court gets this kind of information and does nothing about it, it can mean one of three things: it ignored the list since it was not worth inquiring into; it balked at punishing the Bhushans for contempt for fear of creating a wider scandal; or, fearing what it might find, it chose to brush it under the carpet.

If the topmost court believes that senior lawyers may be able to embarrass it and shrinks from confronting them, it essentially gives them leverage. In last week’s Loya verdict, even though the bench said there was a case for holding the petitioners in contempt, it refrained from taking the extreme step. It had harsh words (see below), but no action.

So, let’s be clear. When courts can only bark but not bite senior counsel, they are sending a message of weakness and vulnerability.

In this context, the impeachment motion against Chief Justice Dipak Misra cannot but be seen as anything other than a crude attempt to cow down the judiciary for having the temerity to deny the cabal of senior lawyers what they want.

It is probably not a coincidence that the move to impeach CJI Misra, which was weakening a few weeks ago, gathered new strength after a bench headed by him threw out the public interest litigation (PIL) seeking a new probe into the death of CBI Judge BH Loya.


In a judgment on 19 April, the bench, which included Justices DY Chandrachud and AM Khanwilkar, blasted the petitioners for launching a frivolous petition with a personal agenda. These amounted to “veiled attempts to launch a frontal attack on the independence of the judiciary and to dilute the credibility of judicial institutions”. The judgment was authored not by the CJI, but Justice Chandrachud.

The Congress party and six other opposition parties (Nationalist Congress Party, Communist Party of India (Marxist), Communist Party of India, Rashtriya Janata Dal, Bahujan Samaj Party and Samajwadi Party) then submitted a motion for starting impeachment proceedings against CJI Misra to Vice-President and Rajya Sabha Chairman Venkaiah Naidu. It was denounced by one of the senior-most Supreme Court lawyers, Fali Nariman, as a “horribly black day. I’ve never seen a day like this. In my 67 years, I’ve never seen a day like this.” His point is simple: if impeachment motions can be launched by the opposition, what will stop the government from doing the same with whichever judge it wants to get rid of?

There is no chance that the impeachment motion will ever succeed, for not only does it require a two-thirds majority in the Rajya Sabha, but also in the Lok Sabha, where the National Democratic Alliance will not allow it to happen. So, the only purpose of the impeachment motion is to circumscribe the CJI’s freedom of action in any cases pending with him, and possibly serve a warning to the judiciary in general that they can at least be publicly embarrassed if not removed from office. It will ensure that any future orders of the CJI – whose tenure continues till October - will come with the taint of illegitimacy.

This is now obvious with the Congress party demanding that the CJI must now recuse himself from judicial work.

So, the deal is clear. If you want to immobilise or embarrass a judge of the Supreme Court, just get 50 signatures of Rajya Sabha members (or 100 from the Lok Sabha), and then tell him he cannot sit on a bench any more. Thus, any party with 50-100 members can destroy judicial independence.

It is worth repeating: the greatest threat to judicial independence is not necessarily the government, but rogue senior counsel who can use political power with impunity to circumscribe any judge or judicial verdict they don’t like.


Jagannathan is Editorial Director, Swarajya. He tweets at @TheJaggi.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Indrad » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:37 pm

PM के हाथों चरण पादुका पहनने वाली रत्नी बाई बोलीं, चप्पल से ज्यादा गैस सिलेंडर की जरूरत
रत्नी बाई ने कहा कि अगर उन्हें प्रधानमंत्री से अपने मन की बात कहने का मौका मिलता तो वह गैस सिलेंडर की मांग करती, लेकिन उन्हें मौका नहीं मिला.
http://zeenews.india.com/hindi/india/ma ... ear/394097

ratni bai tribal lady whom Modi put chappal on feet says she needed gas cylinder more than chappal wish she could speak to PM. :shock:

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Primus » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:44 pm

Jethmalani says it straight:

When asked what he thought about the comments of RaGa - 'SC is in danger, SC is being destroyed, etc'

"Rahul Gandhi is too small a person to comment on these big events in our history and you should ignore anything that he says"

Amazing stuff from one of the senior-most lawyers of the land.



Witness also the other interview with Harsh Salve, who clearly says these guys should be sent to jail. Really hard-hitting. Leaves no doubt in my mind that the Congoons are desperate to the point of stupidity. I do hope they are consigned to the history bin after 2019.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:24 pm

Epic takedown of the pompus eCONomist Kaushik Basu by Nassim Taleb. Calls him a Charlatans who does BS for a living.
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Charlatans & economists use logical flaw: because a pilot is expert, they are experts.

But Pilots are selected via skin-in-the-game mechanisms. Plumbers, dancers, dentists, mathematicians, snipers, pastry chefs are experts.

Not this @kaushikcbasu. Economists BS for a living.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:33 pm

Posting in full .. well worth a read. Some fine points in case you debate a CON person on political interference and independence of the judiciary.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 873859.cms
Removal motion against CJI a remarkable piece of skullduggery
Congress party appears to be still cocooned in Indira Gandhi’s ideology and approach towards judiciary, especially the Supreme Court. The skullduggery behind the removal motion against CJI Dipak Misra has an uncanny resemblance to then minister S Mohan Kumaramangalam’s statement in Parliament on May 2, 1973, justifying the appointment of Justice A N Ray as Chief Justice of India, superseding three stalwart judges — J M Shelat, K S Hegde and A N Grover.

Kumaramangalam had said, “Certainly, we as a government have a duty to take the philosophy and outlook of the judge in coming to the conclusion whether he should or should not lead the Supreme Court (that is whether he should or not become the CJI).

It reflected Congress’s genetic desire to appoint those as judges who would always stay obliged, if not committed, to the party for the ‘favour’.

Reward of CJI’s post made Ray team up with M H Beg, Y V Chandrachud and P N Bhagwati and deliver a draconian verdict in A D M Jabalpur case murdering fundamental rights, including right to life, during Emergency.

The lone dissenter, Justice H R Khanna, was stoned by the Congress government for failing in Kumaramangalam’s test of “philosophy and outlook” required of a judge to become CJI. Khanna was superseded. Justice Beg was made CJI to make him stay obliged to Congress.

Beg was Indira Gandhi’s favourite. When TOI criticised the A D M Jabalpur judgment and blamed Beg, he initiated suo motu contempt against then editor Sham Lal in January 1978, a month before his retirement as CJI.

Beg strived to explain that he did not actually rule in favour of Emergency and gave a 28-paragraph judgment [AIR 1978 SC 489] castigating TOI for motivated criticism. Beg failed to shed his pro-Emergency image. Two others on the bench, Justices N Untwalia and P Kailasam, in a short crisp paragraph said, “We are of the view that it is not a fit case where formal proceedings for contempt should be drawn up.”

Beg retired on February 22, 1978, to soon become a director on the board of National Herald group of newspapers. On returning to power in 1980, Congress rained post-retirement assignments on him.

In 1988, the Rajiv Gandhi government awarded Padma Vibhushan, the second highest civilian award after Bharat Ratna, to Beg for his contribution to law, a sterling example of which he gave in Jabalpur case.

This is how Congress has always treated judges. It always wanted judges like Baharul Islam, who joined Congress in 1956 and held several party posts till 1972. In April 1962, Congress elected him to Rajya Sabha.

After unsuccessfully contesting Assam assembly elections in 1967, he was re-elected to Rajya Sabha in 1968 and aligned with Indira after the split in the party.

In January 1972, he resigned from the upper House and was made a judge of Gauhati HC. He retired on March 1, 1980, when Indira was back in power. She could not bear to see a Congress foot soldier, useful as a judge, go into retirement. Nine months after retiring as an HC judge, Islam was made an SC judge in December 1980.

Six weeks before his retirement and a month after giving a clean chit to then Congress chief minister of Bihar Jagannath Mishra in a forgery case, he resigned as SC judge and filed nomination as Congress candidate for Barpeta Lok Sabha seat.

As Assam turmoil prevented the election, Congress elected Islam for a third RS term in June 1983. Islam’s variation can be found in Ranganath Misra, who was tasked by the Rajiv Gandhi government to inquire into the 1984 anti-Sikh riots in Delhi after Indira’s assassination.

It was public knowledge that thousands of Sikhs were killed by mobs allegedly led by Congressmen. Yet, Misra could not find any Congressman guilty. He vaguely blamed the police for lapses.

As an apt reward, the Congress government made him the first chairman of National Human Rights Commission in October 1993.

In 1998, the party elected him to Rajya Sabha. In 2004, the Congress gave him successive chairmanship of National Commission for Religious and Linguistic Minorities and National Commission for SCs and STs.

Wish Misra had, for the purpose of anti-Sikh riots inquiry, adopted the approach of CJI V N Khare, who privately took pride in claiming to be the blue-eyed boy of Indira.

Khare, who was awarded Padma Vibhushan by UPA-1, sternly dealt with the 2002 post-Godhra communal riots cases and admonished then Gujarat CM Narendra Modi to discharge “raj dharma’ — protecting the weak and punishing the oppressor.

In the 1990s, Congress law minister H R Bharadwaj finetuned the Kumaramangalam test for judges’ appointment and made sure most of the appointees remained loyal, first to him personally and secondly to the party. That is how Bharadwaj effectively controlled political puzzles through the judiciary.

In between the contrasting efforts of Misra and Khare, there was the removal motion filed in Lok Sabha against SC judge Veeraswami Ramaswami on corruption charges. The Congress machinery revved up to defend Ramaswami.

Pressure was exerted on Speaker Rabi Ray not to admit the motion on the ground that Ramaswami had agreed to become chief justice of Punjab and Haryana HC to deal with terrorism related cases when none was agreeing.

The Speaker admitted the motion. Inquiry committee found him guilty of 11 out of 14 charges. The motion was debated. Kapil Sibal defended Ramaswami through an eloquent six-hour presentation, succinctly extracted by advocate Prashant Bhushan in his June 4, 1993, article in ‘Frontline’ magazine. Bhushan wrote, “Sibal took the House for a ride” by ridiculing the “motion for the removal of a judge for purchases of a few pieces of carpets or a few suitcases”.

What weighed with Congress, which defeated the motion by abstaining from voting, was that Rajiv Gandhi government had appointed Ramaswami, and his removal would besmirch the departed leader.

Congress is uncomfortable with any judge who does not meet the standards it has set over decades, be it appointment of judges or their removal.

Now, on finding CJI Dipak Misra unbending to their unacceptable requests, be it Loya case or Ayodhya case, the party took shelter behind allegations made in a press conference by senior SC judges led by a disgruntled, ambitious and politician-friendly judge to move a motion for CJI’s removal based on ‘may be’ charges.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by SSundar » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:44 pm

Delhi High Court Asks Centre If Any Study Was Carried Out To Determine If Capital Punishment Deters Rape

MANY interesting things here:

* PIL litigant is Madhu Kishwar from the RW. Is this friendly fire against Modi or a sleight of hand?
* Court seems more miffed about "no discretion to award less than 7 years imprisonment" than the death penalty.
* The hizzoners who banned everything from Jallikkattu to Diwali without any supporting data now challenge the government for supporting data.

Somebody please order a bag of popcorn.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by srikumar » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:53 pm

...well, if the train of thought is that death penalty as a punishment for rape of minors may motivate the rapists to kill, how about adding death penalty if the rapist has killed the child (as happened in Kathua). Same logic would suggest that the rapist will now try to keep the child alive, thereby protecting the child's life. What do the Lutyens wallas have to say about this.

About the hizzoners asking if death penalty is a deterrent, would they be willing to take data from a foreign country? There is no data from India since it does not have death penalty for this. And if deterrence is the measure by which death penalty is applied, do they have any studies to show that death penalty deters the rarest of rare cases (one category where death penalty is applied in India).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Chandragupta » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:57 am

If the rapist kills the Child, it is anyway IPC 302 which has death penalty although in rarest of rare category.

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Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:54 am

srikumar wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:53 pm
...well, if the train of thought is that death penalty as a punishment for rape of minors may motivate the rapists to kill, how about adding death penalty if the rapist has killed the child (as happened in Kathua). Same logic would suggest that the rapist will now try to keep the child alive, thereby protecting the child's life. What do the Lutyens wallas have to say about this.

About the hizzoners asking if death penalty is a deterrent, would they be willing to take data from a foreign country? There is no data from India since it does not have death penalty for this. And if deterrence is the measure by which death penalty is applied, do they have any studies to show that death penalty deters the rarest of rare cases (one category where death penalty is applied in India).
open your eyes, saar.

The death penalty seriously affects one or two minority religions in particular and many foreigners, especially brits who "run" "orphanages" driven by a deep sense of charity.

Exactly, how such "charity" becomes more effective when dispensed without trousers, is a matter of extensive sociological research and deep study.

This is the root of the objections. One of the affected minority groups has already registered its protests and the other one is riding on its coat tails.

Presstitutes benefit enormously from these two entities.

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Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:29 am

This should stir up a hornet's nest. Protests on the roads, blocked roads, jammed traffic while these "students" exercise their rights of democratic protests.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:35 am

Why is CON upset with Naidu's quick rejection of the CON petition? Because as of now there is no petition pending against the CJI and he can proceed to hear the Ayodhya case. CON system is hell bent to derail that case till after GE 2019 because a decision either ways it allows the BJP to make it an election issue and consolidate the Hindu votes.

The first hint of trouble for the CON system came when CJI rejected multiple entities that tried to inject themselves into the case including a bollywood group. The idea was that each such group will get to make its case and that by itself would have pushed the conclusion of the case beyond GE 2019 thus achieving the CON objective indirectly.

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 446_1.html
Ayodhya dispute: SC rejects all 32 intervention pleas; 9 key developments

As of now there are only 2 parties to the main case and SuSwamy with his right to worship. It is already a well argued case in previously concluded phase in HC. Not much new material and/or arguments are expected to be made and no hope of a delay. The injection of the other "Social groups /Concerned citizens groups" was to stop the quick conclusion of the case.

The moment the CJI rejected the additional pleaders CON system went into a overdrive to delay it by other means. This gambit should be seen as a continuation of that precious move. They were expecting the VP to take time and form a committee to examine the charges and that would have forced the CJI to recluse himself from the case. Who knows but the case might have been re-allocated and the new bench might have agreed to adjournment after adjournment on flimsy grounds.

Now the CJI is free and without any "legal" cloud over his head. The CON will have to file the motion to challenge the VP's decision to again force the CJI's hands but before that they need to work out the permutation and combination that is likely to hear the case. Imagine going all out against the CJI and getting swatted in a day like with the VP by a bench of the SC. Nothing could be worse because that would totally exonerate whatever little cloud that hangs over the CJI's head today. After-all Supreme Court is the final authority on constitutionality that is so dear to the CON mafia.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 888888.cms
VP's rejection of impeachment call ends uncertainty over Ayodhya case hearing
NEW DELHI: Rajya Sabha Chairman M Venkaiah Naidu’s rejection of impeachment petition against CJI Dipak Misra may impact the political discourse in the coming months as it has removed the uncertainty over hearing of the Ayodhya title suit by CJI’s bench.

A judgment in favour of the deity will give an impetus to the BJP campaign in the 2019 Lok Sabha elections whereas the party would try to use an adverse judgment to reap electoral benefits. BJP leaders preferring anonymity have claimed that the impeachment motion was politically motivated and aimed at scuttling the Ram Janmabhoomi case. Now that the CJI would not have to recuse himself, BJP has reasons to hope that judgment in the case would be ready before his retirement on October 2.

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Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:05 am

Who are these stake holders??

Aren't we, the society as a whole, the stake holders??

Why and where is the doubt??

or will some dubious paid off, puff piece presstitute, choose or nominate these "stake holders"??
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No correction of existing system. Who was consulted? Were stakeholders consulted? How will this help in bringing down crime? What is the logic? Will this put victims in further danger? Will families stop reporting if people they know are perpetrators?Dhanya Rajendran added,
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BREAKING: Ordinance promulgated, death penalty for rape of children under 12.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:11 am

Next Ayodhya hearing on 27th April. The CON system wanted to get the CJI out of the case before that not that they will stop even after that.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/ ... 97959.html
Ayodhya dispute: Supreme Court to resume hearing on April 27

BTW, While I had wanted the CON to go to the SC on VP's decision I expected then not to pursue the case any further unless they are sure of getting a favorable verdict.

Looks like I will loose my bet while getting my wish.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:11 am

pankajs wrote:If CJI has to punt then the 4 rogue too will have to punt.
We don't know the history & credentials of the other judges in SC. But looks like Modi's promise of "pure politricks in the last year" seems to have started.
The first hint of trouble for the CON system came when CJI rejected multiple entities that tried to inject themselves into the case including a bollywood group.
Was'nt it the CJI who also said that RJB would be treated like a case of land dispute? In that case what would happen if the the Shia Wakf Board and the state of UP reaches on a conclusion? This being a land dispute (and not a matter of faith) how can folks from Bollywood, Sunni Wakf Board etc. start trying to gate crash into the case?
Indrad wrote:ratni bai tribal lady whom Modi put chappal on feet says she needed gas cylinder more than chappal wish she could speak to PM.
Hmm.. may be instigated by a few "well wishers" (who may wish to see her in a well). Also there are a few folks out there who would try to milk the maximum out of their publicity. In this case, better for some local BJP-fellah to meet the woman and get a list of her demands (which I am sure would now keep on increasing), and just get it done.
chetak wrote:This should stir up a hornet's nest. Protests on the roads, blocked roads, jammed traffic while these "students" exercise their rights of democratic protests.
This would ALSO be the right time then to start a debate on the "living at other's cost" espoused at universities like JNU. Today among India's youth and middle aged there are lots of people who have made up their life by going to colleges paying hefty fees, and not having any subisidised form of education. They have also come up in life the hard way. This crowd would certainly would like to know what contributions have been given to the nation by establishments like JNU.

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Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:18 am

https://youtu.be/7x_zVCGdM9o



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Impeachment procedure of judges improper: Sibal


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"I don't accept the impeachment procedure of judges as proper," says Congress leader and eminent lawyer Kapil Sibal.



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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by ricky » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:24 am

The major takleef with the usual rudaliwalas is that an ordinance was issued, and till the monsoon session no discussion or rather storming the well can occur, and the trigger happy can use this effectively in the right quarters.
As for the matter of consulting "stake holders", the journo is correct. Why should the peoples elected government make any laws for governing without the input of the knowledge and wisdom of the all knowing journalists. Hell, the goi should amend the constitution so that after the president signs any bill, it is sent to a coven of journalists, and only after their consent, the law is passed. They, so clearly are at the pinnacle our collective wisdom, that doing otherwise is just abhorrent.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:24 am

Anand Ranganathan Verified account @ARanganathan72

Kapil Sibal now: We as opposition political parties have signatures of 50 MPs and therefore we forward the Impeachment motion.


Kapil Sibal then: This idea of opposition political parties collecting signatures of 50 MPs for forwarding an Impeachment motion is bullshit.

https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/stat ... 1271845889
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:44 am

proposal for a new award to lawyers/politicos of exceptional accomplishment in pseudo philosophical and flexible ideological gymnastics in the political arena.

Please second the HUA award or the head up the ass award, a political oscar, if you will


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:04 am

Naturally, among the usual suspects, one can see foul mouthed john dayal, free loading as though it is his birth right

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:12 am

Puzzling .... Especially from the guy who reported how Mata Hari of India shed copious amount of tears for the Batla house encounter

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 893395.cms
Congress does have blood on its hands: Salman Khurshid
"I'm a part of the Congress so let me accept that we have blood on our hands," said Khurshid at an event in Aligarh Muslim University.

According to ANI news agency, Khurshid was replying to a question asked by a former AMU student, who was identified as Amir, about the 1984 anti-Sikh riots and the riots following the Babri Masjid demolition in 1992, when the Congress was in power at the Centre.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:16 am

BTW, this guy was joking wonlee ... did not mean it wonlee.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/blast-c ... ra-1841786
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by pankajs » Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:40 am

Seems like CON is slowly but surely loosing its hold to judiciary ... I mean if Chidambaram cannot swing it in Madras HC where else ....
J Gopikrishnan @jgopikrishnan70

Madas HC dismisses Nalini Chidambaram's petition against CBI & ED summons in Saradha Chit Fund Scam 😂😂
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