The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[crams]

Don't want to speak too soon, but based on my limited observation, I find Sachin Pilot the most articulate and acceptable among all the Congoons. Wonder why someone talented like his stays in Congress as second or third fiddle to Pappu. He would make an awesome BJP spokesman .

I am not as impressed with Scindia in MP. He is also another young guy, but he seems so glued to Pappu that he is gone case. Hope Shiv Raj Chauhan has a measure of him and doesn't suffer the same drubbing in the upcoming by election in MP.

[Mort Walker]

Sachin Pilot is married to Sara Abdullah, daughter of Farooq Abdullah. It is likely he has secretly converted to Islam. He has two sons. Arhan and Vehan.

At this point I would call him as part of the BIF.

[SSundar]

Sachin Pilot is married to Sara Abdullah, daughter of Farooq Abdullah. It is likely he has secretly converted to Islam. He has two sons. Arhan and Vehan.

At this point I would call him as part of the BIF.

Interesting. Just today I saw a tweet showing that the Abdullahs disowned Sara because of the marriage.

Apart from just a Peaceful marrying a Hindu, isn't there also a law in J&K stating that marrying outside Kashmir makes a woman a non-Kashmiri?

[SSundar]

A few days ago, I posted about members of my family who had turned anti-NaMo. I see that opinions have hardened so much that they stick to their stands even after so much data has been presented to them. One even says that the media is afraid of Modi and won't say anything against him . Turns out this person has some Peaceful friends who are shaping their opinions. They even claimed that Modi never greets Muslims or Christians for their festivals. A simple Google search showed that Modi has tweeted greetings every year since he became PM candidate.

Opinions are being set, hardened and managed among middle class. These people are beginning to sound like the typical Leftie Libtard. I know for a fact that these people used to be strong NaMo supporters earlier.

[shravanp]

Rajasthan seems to flip-flop between BJP and INC. Vasundhara Raje Scindia seems to have local support, perhaps from some past royal families that have political influence much like former minister Jaswant Singh. I heard a rumor some time back that she's a heavy drinker.

In my recent most visit to Udaipur, pretty every cab driver or any other local whomever I became friendly with, mentioned the same. One of them even said that she finishes a bottle each evening. In general she is disliked quited a lot.

[KL Dubey]

Sachin Pilot is married to Sara Abdullah, daughter of Farooq Abdullah. It is likely he has secretly converted to Islam. He has two sons. Arhan and Vehan.

At this point I would call him as part of the BIF.

Interesting. Just today I saw a tweet showing that the Abdullahs disowned Sara because of the marriage.

Apart from just a Peaceful marrying a Hindu, isn't there also a law in J&K stating that marrying outside Kashmir makes a woman a non-Kashmiri?

Not sure what you mean by "non-Kashmiri", but yes a Kashmiri woman marrying a non-Kashmiri loses her property rights (doesn't apply to a Kashmiri man marrying someone from outside, though). Damn article 370. I remember Sunanda Pushkar was doing some activism about this.

[shravanp]

A few days ago, I posted about members of my family who had turned anti-NaMo. I see that opinions have hardened so much that they stick to their stands even after so much data has been presented to them. One even says that the media is afraid of Modi and won't say anything against him . Turns out this person has some Peaceful friends who are shaping their opinions. They even claimed that Modi never greets Muslims or Christians for their festivals. A simple Google search showed that Modi has tweeted greetings every year since he became PM candidate.

Opinions are being set, hardened and managed among middle class. These people are beginning to sound like the typical Leftie Libtard. I know for a fact that these people used to be strong NaMo supporters earlier.

All that data etc., are useless if people get influenced by guys (peacefools) who believe in ‘laato ke bhoot...’., in short unless NAMo starts punishing media mischief makers, disrupters, the monkeys will rub amok. And narrative will always side with Congoons. Peacefools will happily tom tom to Congressi agenda. I know a few Muslims on teetar I know were on radio silence all through the time when BJP was on winning spree. Once Cong won those silly 3 by poll elections, all their biases, anti Modi hate started spilling out such ad “See bjp is communal, polarising, pehlu khan, where are my 15 lakhs, etc...”

[Kabir]

A few days ago, I posted about members of my family who had turned anti-NaMo. I see that opinions have hardened so much that they stick to their stands even after so much data has been presented to them. One even says that the media is afraid of Modi and won't say anything against him . Turns out this person has some Peaceful friends who are shaping their opinions. They even claimed that Modi never greets Muslims or Christians for their festivals. A simple Google search showed that Modi has tweeted greetings every year since he became PM candidate.

Opinions are being set, hardened and managed among middle class. These people are beginning to sound like the typical Leftie Libtard. I know for a fact that these people used to be strong NaMo supporters earlier.

Any Hindu not supporting the Modi government should understand that they are throwing the ball back into peacefools' court. If thats what they want...
Anti NaMo Hindus are using the same stick that C-system,AAP and evanjihadis use to beat Modi. How are they different then?

[Kabir]

ABP news is after Yogi: screaming fake encounters. In last 2 days more than 24 gangsters have been sent up by Yogi police.

as per SM some of them are peacefuls.

Yogi must tread carefully.

If he slows down now, it will mean a media victory against him. He should up the ante for all that matters. Let the rona dhona continue, most of these were dreaded gangsters who had made UP hell

[Kabir]

yesterday;

1. Chandan shot dead by Salim in Kasganj

2. Ramesh beheaded by peaceful assailants in Hyderabad

3. Santosh murdered by Wasim in Bangalore

4. Manjunath beheaded by Altaf & sons in Bangalore

5. Ankit beheaded by peaceful gf’s family in Delhi

Had this happened back in 90s, it would have triggered massive riots. Looks like Dharmics are losing street power and peacefuls have gained quite a lot of ground post 1992 riots.

At least in Mah this is the situation since the departure of BT. After BT died my dad used to say the loss will be felt 20 years hence. Our parents generations know all too well how the malsi demon operates if the trampled head is let off. Thats why its important to have a strong Hindu bench strength

[Trilobite]

For months BJP spokespersons advocated in support of Karni Sena and ban on Padmavat ??

BJP leaders issued fatwa against Padmavat and announced Rs 10 crore award for the heads of SLB, Rs 10 Lakh for Deepika's nose??[/i]

if so I am unaware, kindly quote links/references regarding this ^

but there are evidences otherwise: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 752624.cms

Karni Sena a congress plant https://rightlog.in/2018/02/karni-sena-congress-01/

HomeIndia news Padmavati fallout: Karni Sena, other Rajput groups support Congress to avenge ‘humiliation’ by BJP in Rajasthan Bypolls
Padmavati fallout: Karni Sena, other Rajput groups support Congress to avenge ‘humiliation’ by BJP in Rajasthan Bypolls http://www.financialexpress.com/india-n ... s/1016304/

Seriously you are unaware? Well here is the link you wanted:
Padmavati: Haryana BJP leader offers Rs 10 cr for beheading Padukone, Bhansali

The links you have posted actually proves what I said in my post. ( the nonstandard 2nd link I did not bother to open). Karni Sena had warned BJP that if it didn't deliver on Padmavat nationwide ban then they would against him in the bypoll. That is what TOI and FinEXP are also saying.

[Kabir]

A tippani for all Hindus who are threatening not to vote for BJP/NaMo - Chara naa milne par Naaraaz Gai - Kasai ke ghar jaa baithi

The Cow upset over not getting fodder, went and sat at the butcher's

[KL Dubey]

2 lakh showed up for this Bengaluru rally.

"Manch par viraajmaan....."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc9ARAnMIi4

[hanumadu]

You are the one who brought in your personal situation. So naturally I will ask if you never needed or used any subsidy and will continue to do so. Is free public education a freebie or a necessary expenditure? Is food subsidy a freebie that you approve or should it be stopped all together? Is farmer subsidy necessary for food security or are you among those elite who will be unaffected by a Venezuela like situation? If all subsidies are stopped, there will be plenty of money for all the infrastructure you want, except there will be no people who can afford or even want to use it.

What personal situation? Don't waste your time extrapolating views to personal background. So can I extrapolate and say you lived off your entire life on freebies, on other people's money based on your posts? Let's not go there.
I repeat again as you don't seem to get the point, anything that promotes economy is fine, setting up funds for startups, low interest loans to SME and insurance cover to poor families etc. Regarding farming, every big state waives off billion dollar worth loans, still those states witness numerous farmer suicides over few thousand rupees and it takes people like nana patekar to help them, I assume you know this and associated scams regarding who actually takes the loan, so is the subsidy ending up at right pocket? In this way aadhar is good in eradicating leakages Nobody will complain if govt is helping farmers. BTW perpetual subsidy is not the answer, technology (ex: Israeli tech) is, good govt is thinking in those terms. Why you need 4000 crores minority fund? I posted a pic yesterday regarding various minority schemes. Those guys don't have any inherent disadvantages w.r.t education or other things. UCC is required, but seeing how this govt is pu$$yfooting on these matters, don't think that'll happen. Every paisa spent on SSSV will go down the drain. Also, a salaried class, general category hindu student is the biggest victim of discrimination in every sense of the word. There was a line I read somewhere, "to reserve or to educate". So the money that you talk about can be used differently here. BTW, will be great if you ask govt to rectify RTE, if you are so worried about education, thousands of schools are being shutdown.

Our subsidy bill IIRC is $60B for a country with such a tiny tax base, and not saying all the money comes from IT paid by salaried class, nonetheless that's a huge amount. There's a fine difference between subsidy and freebie.

You want to end subsidies, then UPA is your answer.


http://www.opindia.com/2018/02/to-the-a ... -congress/

Some times I wish UPA comes back to you just to take care of greedy whiners like you.

Whine, whine, whine that's all you do and when some one points out, give some lame excuse - I want to end subsidies, the subsidies are useless anyway, farmers are still committing suicide, we did not elect Modi for this.

May be you should become the PM, then you can have zero subsidy regime. I guarantee you, even you will not be able to have a zero subsidy regime. Farmer's subsidies are what keeps food affordable for most people apart from let keep people farming. Or else you risk losing food security, riots, people flocking to the cities. India will become a Venezuela. But all we know is to whine against a disadvantaged section who do back breaking work in the worst heat of the subcontinent, while we sit in our AC rooms and fight for more privileges.

We don't even want to give a hard working honest PM time to move the excess farm labour to industry, to shift from rural to urban, to make farming more remunerative for them.

The best punishment for you is another UPA government. What has Modi got to lose? He has no wife, no kids. Why should he give a flying f**k about India or any of us? He can give you the tax breaks you crave for and kick the can down the road to let our kids face the consequences.

[hanumadu]

A tippani for all Hindus who are threatening not to vote for BJP/NaMo - Chara naa milne par Naaraaz Gai - Kasai ke ghar jaa baithi

The Cow upset over not getting fodder, went and sat at the butcher's

We are ready to die, but we want our stupid Re 12,500/year tax break. That's one whole restaurant visit for each month of the year.

[Sachin]

I find Sachin Pilot the most articulate and acceptable among all the Congoons...
I am not as impressed with Scindia in MP. He is also another young guy, but he seems so glued to Pappu that he is gone case

Your thoughts are echoed by very many people, in other foras as well. Even lots of Congress symapthisers say that Congress has got some talent, but due to the Nehru-Ghandi sycophancy, they have all been sidelined or forced to play below their best levels. And I guess after Sonia took over only X'ian coterie managed to come up in the ranks.

Opinions are being set, hardened and managed among middle class. These people are beginning to sound like the typical Leftie Libtard. I know for a fact that these people used to be strong NaMo supporters earlier

Have seen similar characters in my immediate family circles as well. One thing common across this gang is that they (and their clans) are kind of well entrenched in the present system. They really do not wish any one to upset their apple cart. They are also not very keen on NaMo's disruptive moves like Demonitisation, Aadhaar etc. Off course the gang I know also reads news papers, and there is not one even one friendly to NaMo or BJP in KL. Another common thing I have noticed in this group. They are all upper-caste Hindus, yet do not have any pan-India awareness or a feeling that as a country we should prosper. "Me, my family, my clan that should continue to remain as-is. If that means to be ruled by peacefools, that is not a big problem as we are all communists/socialists/aetheists.". This is their philosophy these days.

2 lakh showed up for this Bengaluru rally.

The media which earlier was pooh-poohing BJP for the lesser number of people in their rallies are now crying about massive traffic jam in North Bangalore and other highways because of this rally. Clear proof that for these people nothing but 100% destruction of BJP is their wish.
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Mean while in Karnataka...
Parents in Bengaluru in mad rush to learn Kannada
My take; it is always good to know the local language of the place you reside .

[MehtaRahulC]

ABP news is after Yogi: screaming fake encounters. In last 2 days more than 24 gangsters have been sent up by Yogi police.

as per SM some of them are peacefuls.

Yogi must tread carefully.

Its done to convince ( = fool? ) Hindus that Yogiji is Hinduvaadi. Its "psuedo-negative defacto positive reporting" in which a bikaumediamen will make statement that on surface looks as if he is reporting against a Minister, but statements are phrased in a way that those statements will increase his support in a section of voters (here Hindus)
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Whether Yogiji will stand for indics or back out for whatever reason is clear from the fact that Yogiji supported Padmavati movie at the last movement. And initially, Yogiji had created posture that he will opose sick movie Padmavati. So karni sena made no preparation, and suddenly Yogiji supported release of movie in UP and heavy police protection was put near theaters. So Yogiji also worked to fool Karnai sena activists. So now massive coverage is needed to show that he is Hinduvaadi

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There are dozen outfits named as XYZ Karni sena. The "real" karni sena has said that their protest will continue. Paidmediamen are highlighting fake karne sena leaders' statements

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There were 3 by elections in RS - one MLA and two MP. The MLA elections were near Bhilwara where I have a local activist. His views, and they are also my views are that ---

(1) Bhilwara lost a lot of business and insutries due to notebandhi and then GST. So loss of vote was due to Modiji and not due to Raniji.

(2) Raniji has feet on ground and very popular in "vadapau eating people" and only "burger eating people" dislike her. The whole warcry that "modi tujase bai nahi, rani tteri khair nahi" is creation of "burger eating bjp voters" only.

(3) A large number of activists in Jat/Rajput directly support Raniji and not RSS = BJP or even Modiji. Sponsors of Modiji want to finish EVERY leader which has mass base and so they also want to finish Raniji.

(4) The sponsors of Modiji want baselss leaders like David Fadnavis, Khatter etc. Sponsors of Modiji didnt want Yogiji either, but mass base of Yogiji was too immense and also Hinduvaadies across India needed to see some Hinduvaadi leader rising.

(5) And to make matter worse, Modiji supported sick movie Padmavati. Its now clear that censor board showed URGENCY to clear Padmavati and all know where they get orders from. And even though many Rajputs supports Raniji and RSS = BJP, they decided to go against BJP. IOW, it was Modiji who due to notebandhi, GST and Padmavato reduced RSS votes in Bhilwara , not Raniji.

[manju]

Rahul bhai, can you name one leader who is anywhere near your level of competence?

[Supratik]

An unpopular leader cannot win even by the best work. That pretty much sums up Vasundhara. She threatened with rebellion last time when there was talk of leadership change. Modi-Shah were relatively less strong and they succumbed to pressure and she rode to power on Modi wave. It seems Jaitely has cautioned her and state leaders have urged change in leadership. It is time to let her go even if she rebels. In any case if she stays they are going to loose RJ. Much as well try with someone else. Apparently Modi and BJP are not unpopular in RJ.

[Karthik]

You are the one who brought in your personal situation. So naturally I will ask if you never needed or used any subsidy and will continue to do so. Is free public education a freebie or a necessary expenditure? Is food subsidy a freebie that you approve or should it be stopped all together? Is farmer subsidy necessary for food security or are you among those elite who will be unaffected by a Venezuela like situation? If all subsidies are stopped, there will be plenty of money for all the infrastructure you want, except there will be no people who can afford or even want to use it.

What personal situation? Don't waste your time extrapolating views to personal background. So can I extrapolate and say you lived off your entire life on freebies, on other people's money based on your posts? Let's not go there.
I repeat again as you don't seem to get the point, anything that promotes economy is fine, setting up funds for startups, low interest loans to SME and insurance cover to poor families etc. Regarding farming, every big state waives off billion dollar worth loans, still those states witness numerous farmer suicides over few thousand rupees and it takes people like nana patekar to help them, I assume you know this and associated scams regarding who actually takes the loan, so is the subsidy ending up at right pocket? In this way aadhar is good in eradicating leakages Nobody will complain if govt is helping farmers. BTW perpetual subsidy is not the answer, technology (ex: Israeli tech) is, good govt is thinking in those terms. Why you need 4000 crores minority fund? I posted a pic yesterday regarding various minority schemes. Those guys don't have any inherent disadvantages w.r.t education or other things. UCC is required, but seeing how this govt is pu$$yfooting on these matters, don't think that'll happen. Every paisa spent on SSSV will go down the drain. Also, a salaried class, general category hindu student is the biggest victim of discrimination in every sense of the word. There was a line I read somewhere, "to reserve or to educate". So the money that you talk about can be used differently here. BTW, will be great if you ask govt to rectify RTE, if you are so worried about education, thousands of schools are being shutdown.

Our subsidy bill IIRC is $60B for a country with such a tiny tax base, and not saying all the money comes from IT paid by salaried class, nonetheless that's a huge amount. There's a fine difference between subsidy and freebie.

You want to end subsidies, then UPA is your answer.


http://www.opindia.com/2018/02/to-the-a ... -congress/

Some times I wish UPA comes back to you just to take care of greedy whiners like you.

Whine, whine, whine that's all you do and when some one points out, give some lame excuse - I want to end subsidies, the subsidies are useless anyway, farmers are still committing suicide, we did not elect Modi for this.

May be you should become the PM, then you can have zero subsidy regime. I guarantee you, even you will not be able to have a zero subsidy regime. Farmer's subsidies are what keeps food affordable for most people apart from let keep people farming. Or else you risk losing food security, riots, people flocking to the cities. India will become a Venezuela. But all we know is to whine against a disadvantaged section who do back breaking work in the worst heat of the subcontinent, while we sit in our AC rooms and fight for more privileges.

We don't even want to give a hard working honest PM time to move the excess farm labour to industry, to shift from rural to urban, to make farming more remunerative for them.

The best punishment for you is another UPA government. What has Modi got to lose? He has no wife, no kids. Why should he give a flying f**k about India or any of us? He can give you the tax breaks you crave for and kick the can down the road to let our kids face the consequences.

Boss... I've been replying patiently to you despite your personal remarks. It seems you argue just for the sake of it without understanding the point. Aren't you proving my point by showing that graph? "To educate or to reserve" example I mentioned says exactly that: capex vs subsidy. Are you so dense to not understand my point that govt has no business in providing subsides that don't have any ROI or help the needy, such as thousands crores of subsidies/freebies to minorities for ex? Parroting some unrelated nonsense about venezuela again and again. Expecting the govt to spend public's tax money prudently is not being greedy, especially when not everyone contributes. According to you people who pay IT shouldn't have any say or opinion on how the govt should invest or spend? I hope the govt isn't so arrogant.

BTW Stop here as it looks like you are NM's minion and I am done repeating myself over and over again.

[Gus]

ssundar - did the folks you refer to - actually went out and voted in 2014 and intend to go out again in 2019?

[sbajwa]

Sachin Pilot is married to Sara Abdullah, daughter of Farooq Abdullah. It is likely he has secretly converted to Islam. He has two sons. Arhan and Vehan.

At this point I would call him as part of the BIF.

Exactly!! Rajesh pilot (his father) was brought on to politics and in Congress by Rajeev Gandhi when he became PM in 1984. He also got many of his friends (Amitabh Bachchan, Sharma, etc) into congress. They now totally support the dynasty.

[sbajwa]

Check this article out about Sachin and Sara
https://www.rajasthantruths.com/the-jui ... r-ki-kali/

They say ‘Love is Blind But Marriage is an Eye-Opener’. The Proverb Appropriately Fits the Love-Hate Story of Sachin & Sarah Pilot. We Bring you the Latest Gossip from the Pilot Household Today…

Romeo-Juliet, Titanic, Heer-Ranjha: they’re things of the past. Today, we’re going to narrate a ‘desi’, ‘masala’ love story that outshines all the cliché Bollywood movies. The protagonists of the story are a Hindu Jat and a Muslim beauty who met each other overseas. At college, their friendship eventually blossomed into love. When the families were involved, it stirred up the biggest controversy of the decade. The guy came from the family of renowned politicians and armymen whereas the girl belonged to a strict Kashmiri family that had not one, but three chief ministers on their family tree.

We bet you know who we’re talking about! The story involves two well-known, powerful political families of our country– the Pilots and the Abdullahs.

The Abdullahs were Against Sachin-Sarah Union

Omar and Farooq Abdullah were strictly against the wedding of Sachin and Sarah due to cultural differences. Though Sachin convinced his family regarding Sarah, his father-in-law Farooq Abdullah didn’t accept their relationship. Regardless of the families criticising their reunion, in January 2004, Sachin and Sarah tied the knot in a small ceremony. After marriage, the Abdullahs disowned Sarah for her rebellion.

But, things settled down for good when Sachin tried his luck in politics. He contested for Lok Sabha elections in 2004 from Dausa constituency. His victory earned the appreciation of father-in-law, who finally accepted him as a part of his family.

Farooq Abdullah himself got married to a British Catholic woman named Molly while his son Omar is married to a Hindu ex-army officer’s daughter. It means inter-caste marriages were common in the Abdullah family. Therefore, the world was really surprised when Farooq forbade his daughter from seeing Sachin Pilot. Our trusted sources reveal that the veteran politician didn’t trust Pilot’s ways. In time, his fatherly instincts were proven correct.

A Not-so-Happy-Ending of a Fairytale Romance

A few years after marriage, things became rocky for the couple when Sachin went back to his old Casanova ways. Once, Sarah caught Sachin in a compromising position with another woman at a Delhi-based 5-star hotel. Sachin was quick to beg her forgiveness. Sarah, who loved her husband unconditionally, forgave him for his mistake and gave their marriage a second chance.

However, things turned dirtier when their house maid got pregnant for the second time at their home. That’s when their marriage went downhill. In 2014, Sarah retreated back to her family house in Kashmir. In 2014, the divorce of Sachin and Sarah Pilot was all over the media. Sarah was determined to get rid of Sachin then. She’d almost completed the formalities for legal separation, when their families intervened in between.

The divorce was annulled since elections were near and this could leave a detrimental impact on the political records of both the families. Though Sachin promised to mend his ways, it’s obvious he didn’t keep his promises. Time and again, we saw him with other women at various social gatherings (bet Sarah knew nothing about it). Even now, the couple is facing a tough time in their married life. Though Sarah hasn’t divorced Sahin under family pressure yet, the world knows they’ve been living separately for long.

So, that’s how a beautiful love story that started with promises of friendship, ended on a bad note. It’s high time that Pilot mends his ways else he would lose more than just his constituency—he’ll lose a loving wife and the respect of his two beautiful children. It’ll be an irreparable loss.

[Tanaji]

Rahul bhai, can you name one leader who is anywhere near your level of competence?

He himself.

[SSundar]

ssundar - did the folks you refer to - actually went out and voted in 2014 and intend to go out again in 2019?

Yes