The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by MehtaRahulC » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:55 am

... what is your suggestion re who should be voted for in 2019 to power?
All existing alternatives namely SoMoKe = SoGa/NaMo/ArKe are highly defunct. And SoGa/ArKe are highly corrupt. (Forum rules prohibit making corruption allegations on Sri Modiji). And almost all congress/rss/aap workers are highly corrupt as well.

Congress workers are pseudo-secular, openly pro-corruption , openly anti-national
RSS worlers are pseudo-hinduvaadi, openly pro-corruption , pseudo nationalist
AAP workers are pseudo-secular, pseudo anti-corruption , openly anti-national

Defunctness of Modiji's evidencet from the fact schools in Delhi today are far better managed than they were compared to Delhi between jun-2014 and feb-2015, when Delhi State govt was under Modiji. And ArKe is defunct/corrupt, but then also schools are better managed. So you can imagine how defunct Modiji is - that even ArKe can manage schools better than Modiji can.

And they are all beyond repair. Trying to repair them will be waste of time

Solution is that true nationalist and true anti-corruption people should start working to create new TRUE nationalist, TRUE secular and TRUE anti-corruption political/electoral alternatives.

And we should vote for THAT alternative.
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what is your suggestion re who should be voted for in 2019 to power? ...
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What, not Pappu?
RSS-workers will keep crushing all information on defunctness of Modiji, corruption of rss leaders/workers by citing one and only one argument "do you want to vote for congress"? They will protect Modiji's defunctness and corruption of rss leaders/workers using this braindead statement.

So corruption and defuctness will keep rising. And so one day, voters will get sick of rising defunctness, rising corruption and resulting problems like unemployment etc, and end up voting for traitors like ArKe. And ArKe will give freedom to JK, handover NE to Bangladesh and do what not.

So nationalist should ignore this cacophony of rss-workers that "oh !!! you dont want to vote for Modiji ?? oh !! you want to work for congress" and work to create true nationalist, true secular, true anti-corruption political party.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:11 am

Indrad wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:30 pm
Trilobite what is your suggestion re who should be voted for in 2019 to power?
NM no doubt, but that doesn't mean our job is over once voting is done. We need to demand/request/make sure the govt listens to us on Indic issues. After all, all MPs, MLAs, other govt admins come from same stock. It's not a blasphemy to criticize of question NM or BJP.

Criticism != voting for some other guy.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sanjayC » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:16 am

^^ I don't think Modi is the laggard, luxury-loving types who has to be pushed continuously by voters to achieve something. He is more proactive than all of us put together.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:23 am

Justin Trudeau became more 'Indian' than Indians but fails to impress amid Khalistan row

Justin Trudeau became more 'Indian' than Indians but fails to impress amid Khalistan row

Bikram Vohra Feb 24, 2018

We should have fallen head over heels in love with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He was so much like us on this visit. We customarily love this sort of schmaltz and are so good at going the whole nine yards what with our predilection for classical music and dancing girls and flinging rose water and planting tikkas at visitors from foreign shores.

Justin thought this was the done thing and went for it. He was more Indian than the Indians, just a step short from owning an attaché case with a leather covering placed dustily on top of the cupboard and a set of three wooden ducks on the wall for décor with a coir mat carrying the legend ‘swagatham’at the door.

Except there was no welcome. We almost imagined him doing aarti when he finally met Prime Minister Narendra Modi. With marigold flowers and incense sticks. It would have gone down well with his swiftly changing fancy dress attire but somewhere in all this, it left us all cold because he was so desperately falling over himself to be Indian that he not only put everyone off but it looked suspiciously like he was patronising us. The line between a polite and involved visitor imbibing cultural nuances and the white man easing his burden with a ‘let’s dress up’ folks and ‘identify’ with the natives is very thin. The genius lies in knowing when to stop. Justin went Hollywood, beat the drums, yummed over Indian food and would probably have embarrassed the Canadians with so much nativity done ostensibly to please the Sikh vote bank in Canada what with his Indianness being beamed back home.

It was just too too much of healthy breakfast food wholesomeness which might have made Norman Rockwell delighted but left Indians mystified. What was he doing going ‘desi’ on us?

There are three reasons for the general indifference from the government and people. Justin is just too fey and coy and cute and unreal. At the outset, it became a bit ludicrous what with the family joining in and all over Indian people wondering who is this guy, what’s his problem. The result: mildly offensive and certainly not edifying for a world leader. It was so reminiscent of those frontiersmen smoking the peace pipe with native Red Indians and eating their food with fake relish before selling them glass beads.

In Justin’s case, the second strike was a weak gift bag of political goodies. There was nothing powerful in the agenda and the Indian government’s transparent indifference detracted from two major democracies and their traditional closeness what with Canada home to nearly two million people of Indian origin and over 25,000 fetching up to chase a faux American dream every year. Fact is Modi didn’t even fetch up at the airport to greet the Trudeau family. The small but significantly wealthy section of the 4,70,000 Sikh population in Canada profess to support the formation of Khalistan and the Trudeau administration allows the group to have its say. Add to that the snafu of giving a visa to Jaspal Atwal one of four Canadian Indians who in 1991 shot and killed Malkiat Singh Sidhu, a then-member of Punjab's cabinet. Trudeau created a furore when he attended a function in Toronto last year where a pro-Khalistan ambience was rife. Then Sophi Trudeau added to the awkward impasse by being photographed next to Atwal ostensibly unaware of who he was. How this ‘terrorist’ got an Indian visa calls for a separate inquiry.

After which we observe the third dimension. The artificial de-icing with prime minister swinging into a heavy-duty hug mode only underscored the deliberate cold shoulder. Too little too late. With a very light schedule in mutual treaties and MOU’s the seven-day trip has had the consistency of walking in treacle: sticky sweet and cloying and missing substance.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:35 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:55 am
Solution is that true nationalist and true anti-corruption people should start working to create new TRUE nationalist, TRUE secular and TRUE anti-corruption political/electoral alternatives.

And we should vote for THAT alternative.
thank you loooong write up now imagine you are in line to vote on fateful day: whom will you vote for
1. Congress
2. Local candidate of your choice
3. BJP
4. AAP/left/ other commies
5. congress wearing mask e.g. Lalu/Mulayam/Mayawati/NCP
6. NOTA

One word/line answer sir pls. No beating around bush.

Trilobite care to answer pls, as well.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:10 am

Is anybody still left wondering why TN "dravidian" parties as well as the eminence grise of these very same "dravidian" politics are so strongly supporting the "fishermen" who are in overwhelming majority, believers of one specific religion??



Tamil Nadu-Sri Lanka drug nexus: Something fishy about these fishermen

Tamil Nadu-Sri Lanka drug nexus: Something fishy about these fishermen

Written By: Vicky Nanjappa

Thursday, February 22, 2018,

The legendary movie Scarface opens with a scene where 1,000s of refugees from Cuba land into the United States. Antonio Montana played by the greatest actor of our times, Al Pacino is one among them. What follows is chaos and dark, dirty world of drugs.

Flashback, 2006.

There were 18,600 Tamil refugees who arrived at Rameswaram in Tamil Nadu. All were sent to special camps on the suspicion that they had links with the LTTE. Further, the probe revealed that many were drug co, Many refugees had become couriers and in the name of medicines and aid came the drugs. The modus operandi was busted and with the fall of the LTTE there was a lull.

Today not a single day passes by when an incident of drug smuggling is not reported. There is a sudden spike in the smuggling of ephedrine and in the first half of 2017 86 kilograms of ephedrine was seized. Further, there is an increase by 26 per cent in amphetamine seizures coupled with 115 kilograms of the heroin being picked up by the enforcement agencies.

The list is endless. The cartels bring in LSD, cocaine, cannabis, pseudoephedrine and Ketamine too in large quantities. The top route: Tamil Nadu has always been a transit point for smuggling.

The end of the civil war in Sri Lanka, the smuggling of drugs has increased. There is a great demand for heroin in Sri Lanka and smuggling has become easier thanks to the porous borders. Further, the proximity between Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka has made it a smugglers paradise. While at first, the couriers were the refugees, today it is the fishermen. Recently the Sri Lankan naval fleet apprehended six Indian fishermen and also seized a fishing boat on the charge that they were attempting to smuggle 13.5 kilograms of heroin. The men from the Nagapattinam area were nabbed and it was found that three of them did not even have proper identity cards. Sri Lanka has claimed that they have been regularly nabbing drug traffickers approaching the north waters posing as fishermen.

The international cartel:

The international cartel which is using Sri Lanka as a transhipment destination relies heavily on the fishermen. The heroin trade between India and Sri Lanka was established over a century back. While it continued, the LTTE too sources heroin from India and smuggled it into Sri Lanka where the domestic consumption is very high. The LTTE would use the funds for its activities. After the LTTE fell, the model is now being replicated by the international drug cartel. It was found that the cartel bribes the fishermen to smuggle the drugs.

An officer with the Narcotics Control Bureau told OneIndia that fishermen are today the favourite couriers of drugs for the cartel. The NCB official said that two-thirds of the heroin is being produced in Afghanistan. It is then brought into Pakistan following which the contraband is dropped off at Punjab. From there it is loaded into inter-state trucks and then supplied to the rest of the country. Most of the grade 3 heroine referred to as brown sugar lands in Ramnathpuram which is the closest sea link to Sri Lanka. It is then divided into smaller and larger quantities. While the larger quantity is taken to Sri Lanka through the sea route from Rameswaram, the smaller lot is packed off through the Chennai airport.

Hard to track:

Monitoring all the boats is no easy task. There are 100s of boats that venture out from Rameswaram and to check each one of them is no easy job. Most of the contraband is handed over to agents mid-sea by the fishermen. The problem is immense and even the Sri Lankan navy has managed to apprehend the fishermen only when there is very concrete information. This ideally means a large part of the contraband manages to reach its destination. Over the recent months, it has also been found that there is a very high demand for cannabis from Kerala. The cartels use a similar route to reach Sri Lanka. Statistics would show that 2,500 kilograms of cannabis and 180 kilograms of heroin have been seized in recent times.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by chetak » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:18 am

An Unnamed IAS Officer Levels Serious Allegations Of Corruption Against Big-Four Firm KPMG India

An Unnamed IAS Officer Levels Serious Allegations Of Corruption Against Big-Four Firm KPMG India

By PARANJOY GUHA THAKURTA AND ABIR DASGUPTA | 23 February 2018

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An anonymous letter written by a civil servant, addressed to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, has levelled serious allegations against the multinational consulting firm KPMG’s India operations. In the letter, which is dated 5 December, a senior bureaucrat—who claims to be a member of the elite Indian Administrative Service (IAS) and holds the post of a director in the union government—accuses the group of exercising influence over key government officials by, among other means, recruiting their children and relatives. It alleges that there is a pattern of influence among senior officers in the central and state governments and top executives in KPMG India. Other allegations stated in the letter include the purported offer of a bribe to a bureaucrat, and the awarding of crucial government contracts to international firms, to the detriment of domestic industry.

A KPMG spokesperson strongly denied the imputations of impropriety but did not refute particular claims made in the letter.

The unnamed director writes that the letter was intended to bring to the prime minister’s notice “rampant corruption … in collusion with private sector MNC consultants.” The author states that they have withheld their identity “on fear of persecution by fellow bureaucrats.” Reliable sources have confirmed to these reporters the authenticity of the letter, which has been doing the rounds in government circles in recent weeks.

Headquartered in the Netherlands, KPMG is one of the “big four” accounting and financial consultancy networks across the world, along with Ernst & Young, PwC (earlier PricewaterhouseCoopers) and Deloitte, all of which have significant operations in India.

The allegations described in the letter are serious. The director alleges that a senior executive in KPMG India’s government advisory services offered a joint secretary posted in their department a “substantial bribe” in exchange for the award of a large consulting project. The director states that the joint secretary declined the bribe. However, the director adds, the joint secretary chose not to report the matter, allegedly in fear of KPMG’s clout among senior officers of the IAS and the Indian Police Service (IPS) in the central and state governments.

The director details the manner in which such clout in the corridors of power is allegedly achieved. They list a number of jobs held in KPMG by relatives of senior bureaucrats, purportedly in order to curry the officials’ favour. Such jobs are well remunerated—earning close to Rs 40 crore over the course of a professional career, according to the letter—and are akin to a “bribe” of a similar amount, the director states.

The officer has listed the names of nine senior officers whose close relatives hold jobs with KPMG—their names are deliberately being withheld in this report. These include relatives of several former and current top officers in the Ministry of Urban Development, including the son of a former secretary in the ministry who is currently posted in the Ministry of Home Affairs, and who earlier served in a key position in Jharkhand. The nephew of an additional secretary in the same ministry and the son of a former joint secretary are listed as well. Importantly, one of these civil servants currently holds a crucial position in Modi’s flagship Smart Cities mission.

Other relatives named in the letter include the daughter of an IAS officer from the Gujarat cadre who served as a secretary in the home ministry and the sons of: a senior IAS officer belonging to the Rajasthan cadre, a former joint secretary in the home ministry who was formerly the chairman of the Airports Authority of India, a former senior IAS officer from the Andhra Pradesh cadre, a former chief secretary of Telangana, and a former finance secretary to the government of India.

The letter alleges that each of these officers were in key positions when their relatives were hired by KPMG, and that the firm was subsequently awarded large consulting projects by the concerned departments. The urban-development ministry features prominently in the letter—KPMG is executing the ministry’s Swachh Bharat and Heritage City Development and Augmentation Yojana (HRIDAY) projects. Other flagship government projects with which KPMG is associated and which are mentioned in the letter include Make in India, the Smart Cities mission, the Startup India initiative, the Bharatmala project for roads and highways, the Sagarmala project for ports and maritime development, and the Atal Mission for Rejuvenation and Urban Transformation (AMRUT). The letter alleges that consulting firm is associated with government projects involving a total outlay of over Rs 5,000 crore.

Featuring prominently in the letter are also allegations against the India head of KPMG, Arun Kumar. Prior to his appointment to KPMG, Kumar served as the Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Global Markets and the Director General of the US and Foreign Commercial Service during US president Barack Obama’s second term. The director claims that in his role as the chairman and CEO of KPMG India, Kumar has favoured American firms for contracts in government missions. The letter claims that American firms such as Cisco, IBM, Dell, Hewlett Packard, Honeywell, United Technologies and Otis have bagged equipment contracts under the prime minister’s flagship Smart Cities programme, to the disadvantage of Indian firms and costing India “lacs of jobs.” This, the director alleges, is linked to KPMG India’s involvement with the United States Trade and Development Agency (USTDA), the arm of the US government that works to advance the country’s business and economic interests globally. The USTDA, the director states, has hired KPMG India to work with the US government to “push US firms into the Smart Cities program.” “Hence tenders are coming out with Cisco equipment specifications, making it impossible for competent Indian firms … to compete.”

The director alleges that “[s]uch ability to deeply influence Indian government functioning arises from the fact that many of our senior bureaucrats are compromised as their children work for the US MNC consulting firms.” Further, the letter alleges that the malaise is spread across “the Big Four consulting firms, who have practically infested all our governments.” “A quick investigation will reveal that government projects worth over Rs 300,000 crores are being handled by US consulting firms and that atleast 100 top bureaucrats have their children or relatives working in these consulting firms,” the director alleges.

We reached out to KPMG India regarding the allegations contained in the letter. A spokesperson for the firm rejected the accusations and questioned the motivations of the director, terming the letter “instigated and written with malicious competitive intent.” Though the spokesperson said that the letter is “replete with factual errors,” these were not pointed out. Further, the spokesperson did not deny specific claims contained in the letter—such as the employment of the individuals concerned, or the involvement of KPMG India in the projects mentioned, and the alleged roping-in of US firms into Indian government projects. The full statement sent by the spokesperson reads:

The accusations made in this anonymous letter alleging wrong doing in KPMG’s work for the Government of India are totally baseless. KPMG has worked with the Union and various State Governments over the past years with many diverse stakeholders, and has always conducted its business with utmost transparency and the highest standards of integrity and ethics. KPMG is a best-in-class organization that has been operating for over 25 years in India with a solid, irrefutable track record.

Talent at KPMG is recruited solely on the basis of merit and the organization has robust processes to ensure objectivity and fairness in selection and promotions. To suggest that KPMG associates have been hired on account of their parentage and linking its government work to such hires is an affront to the qualifications and expertise of the employees and to the organisation’s world class credentials. We have examined the insinuations in the letter and find them replete with factual errors apart from being slanderous.

It is unfortunate that the writer has stooped to insinuate motives to the KPMG India Chairman who returned to India after a distinguished career in the US, where he played an important and constructive role in the advancement of India-US relations. His work at KPMG India has no relation, whatsoever, with his prior role in the US Government. His work in India only demonstrates his professional and personal commitment to the growth and development of India, the country of his birth.

KPMG notes these allegations are mischievous and emphatically rejects them. Our guess is that the letter is instigated and written with malicious competitive intent.

A top executive employed in one of the Big Four multinational consultancy firms, reacting to the letter on the condition of anonymity, confirmed the prevalence of corrupt practices in the business of consultancy. He said that “in continuation of the policy of privatization of public resources, it appears that a new cosy relationship has evolved between crony capitalists, government officers and consulting firms.” “Given the fire from the CAG (the Comptroller and Auditor General) faced by government officers in earlier cases of alleged attempts to privatize public resources such as the 2G (second-generation telecommunications spectrum) scam, Coalgate, etc, a convenient mechanism has got formulated, wherein decisions of government officers are now based on ‘neutral’ third party consulting firms, reducing the accountability of the officers and the decisions leading to profiteering by crony capitalists,” the executive said.“The crony capitalists gain, the government officers gain as their children get lucrative employment in the consulting firms and the consulting firms gain as they receive hefty fees from public coffers.”

KPMG is not the only firm that has recently been accused of such impropriety—in early February 2018, the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI), the regulator for the securities market in India, banned the Indian arm of PwC from auditing any firms listed in the country, for the forthcoming two years. SEBI took this action against PwC based on its alleged role in the Satyam scam, in which the computer-services company inflated its earnings by close to $1 billion. SEBI stated in its order that the consulting firm, which was auditing Satyam, failed to “independently check the veracity of the monthly bank statements.” The board said that it felt compelled to take a “stern view of … fraudulent practices, particularly when persons tasked with protecting the interest of investors are themselves hand-in-glove with the main perpetrators of the fraud.”

In the wake of the 2008 global economic crisis, the discourse around wealth inequality and the “revolving door” relationships between major multinational corporations and governments, which foster the maintenance of such inequality, have gained significant prominence. These allegations add to this conversation, and point to a growing familial and caste-community nexus in India that appears to control major levers of governance, public investment and policy, in concert with powerhouse multinationals.

While such a claim—of exercising influence by forming “alliances” with senior government functionaries through the employment of their relatives—may be difficult to prove in court, it is precisely through such ambiguity and the plausible deniability it offers to the concerned officers that the informal networks of power that constitute familial and clan relations can come to capture many of India’s formal institutions of governance.

In conclusion, the anonymous director writes that they are confident that the prime minister will take “swift action” to prevent more “damage” to the country’s interests. The director adds that they are “proud” of Modi, and takes a “pledge” to support his “war against corruption, both from within the government and from private sector.” “I completely believe in your war cry – ‘Na Khayengey, Na Khaneydeyngey’ – ‘I will not be compromised and I will not let others be compromised,’” the director wrote.

The Caravan wrote to the Prime Minister’s Office, enquiring whether any action has been taken on the director’s complaint. At the time this article was published, the PMO was yet to respond. The article shall be updated when a response is received.

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Paranjoy Guha Thakurta and Abir Dasgupta are independent journalists.

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Post by chetak » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:37 am

SC Asks Centre To Regulate Foreign Auditors Operating In India, Says Unchecked Firms Could Adversely Affect Country’s Economy
Taking a serious note of unchecked auditing bodies adversely affecting the country’s economy, the Supreme Court has said that the Centre may consider setting up of a three-member experts committee to look into the issue of regulating the multinational accounting firms (MAFs) operating in India.

The apex court observed that absence of "revisiting and restructuring oversight mechanism" to regulate such accountancy firms might have adverse impact on the existing chartered accountancy profession and unchecked auditing bodies could also adversely affect the economy of the country.
An Outlook issue in August last year had brought to light how as a profession chartered accountants were facing their worst crisis of credibility with allegations of money laundering staining their white collars forever. One of the articles in this package by S. Gurumurthy had particularly looked at how foreign firms had shattered the ethical legacy that drove the professional standards of Indian CAs.
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On Friday, a bench comprising Justices A K Goel and U U Lalit said the Centre could consider steps for effective enforcement of the provisions of the Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) policy and the Foreign Exchange Management Act (FEMA) regulations.

"Absence of revisiting and restructuring oversight mechanism as discussed above (in the judgement) may have adverse effect on the existing chartered accountancy profession as a whole on the one hand, and unchecked auditing bodies can adversely affect the economy of the country on the other," the bench said in a 75-page judgement.

The court's order came on two petitions, including the one filed by NGO Centre for Public Interest Litigation (CPIL), which had alleged that foreign accountancy firms were practising in India in violation of law.

The NGO had also sought a probe against foreign accountancy firms operating in India for allegedly indulging in financial irregularities and fudging of accounts.

It noted that as per reports of the study group and expert group, enforcement mechanism was not adequate and effective and these aspects were required to be looked into by the experts in the government.

"The Union of India may constitute a three member committee of experts to look into the question whether and to what extent the statutory framework to enforce the letter and spirit of sections 25 and 29 of the CA (Chartered Accountants) Act and the statutory code of conduct for the CAs requires revisit so as to appropriately discipline and regulate MAFs," the bench said.

It referred to two laws of the USA in this regard and said that the committee may also consider the need for an appropriate legislation or any other appropriate mechanism for oversight of profession of the auditors.

"The question whether on account of conflict of interest of auditors with consultants, the auditors’ profession may need an exclusive oversight body may be examined. The committee may examine the study group and the expert group reports referred to (in the judgement), apart from any other material," it said.

"The committee may call for suggestions from all concerned. Such committee may be constituted within two months. Report of the committee may be submitted within three months thereafter. The Union of India may take further action after due consideration of such report," the apex court said.

It also said that the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India (ICAI) might further examine all the related issues at appropriate level within three months and take steps as considered necessary.

The bench observed that it appreciated that it was for the policy makers to take a call on the issue of "extent to which globalisation" could be allowed in a particular field and the conditions, subject to which the same can be allowed.

"In the present context, having regard to the statutory framework under the CA Act, current FDI Policy and the RBI circulars, it may prima facie appear that there is violation of statutory provisions and policy framework effective enforcement of which has to be ensured," it said.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Kabir » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:39 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:54 pm
Lilo wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:01 pm
Trilobite wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:42 pm

Seriously dude? People are supposed to buy this "hook and crook" nonsense from you?

What kind of ***tard are you? Let me know so I can address you appropriately, till then re-tard should do, no?
See weird insect (Trilobite your name seems apt doesn't it?) you again proved how an aaptard comes with the brain the size of an insect.
Try to put a coherent response to my post instead of giving a "seriously dude" routine. Else slither away.

I don't think you are realizing how moronic your by "hook & crook" was! but then what can be expected from a blind-bhaktard like you!
I feel offended by this word 'bhakt***" The word Bhakt is revered in our culture and religion for a person who has been connected to god through bhakti the ultimate devotion to God. I don't know why people bring their hatred and inferiority complex about their own country and culture to such forums and start abusing such words. I would like to request the mods if such non-sense can be stopped here? This is not a PRF as such posters would like to have it.

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Post by chetak » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:22 pm

WHY No Award-Wapsi, NO Candle-Light March ??

WHY The Self-Certified Saviours of Dalits, Backwards -@jigneshmevani80 @Shehla_Rashid @SubhashiniAli @pbhushan1 @Ram_Guha @kavita_krishnan @bprerna - r SILENT On Such Violence in Kerala & Why NO #NotInMyName ??


Well where is Intolerant brigade now? Where are so called leftiest and #Awardwapasiganag , #NotInMyName Gang and #Justasking Prakashraj? Why is everyone silent on this issue?
It's simple as no vote banking politics can be done here.




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Post by chetak » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:25 pm

what was the hurry Mr raghu ram rajan??


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:34 pm

sanjayC wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:16 am
^^ I don't think Modi is the laggard, luxury-loving types who has to be pushed continuously by voters to achieve something. He is more proactive than all of us put together.
That may be your view, FWIW, I too had same opinion of NM in 2014, but 4 years is a good enough waiting time to observe things no?

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Post by crams » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:48 pm

One can criticize ModiJi for whatever reason, and even I die hard fan of his like me have (for e.g., his blow hot, blow cold Paki policy, poor implementation of demo etc), but anybody who calls him 'corrupt' without a shred of evidence like RahulMehtaC does, needs to get their head examined by a mental doctor.

RudraJi, several posts before, you were lamenting that among all the real and imaginary cudgels that Pappu and his slaves have against ModdiJi, the PNB scam and Nirav Modi are real cudgels that Pappu can use against ModiJi and make him vulnerable. I beg to differ.

IMO, while at best ModiJi was incompetent in letting Nirav Modi escape, there is not even the slightest shred of evidence that there was any hanky panky on the part of ModiJi or anybody in his cabinet. All of Pappu's and ModiJi haters attacks so far have just been worthless cacophony. Also, with ModiJi cracking down post PNB scam, it will die a slow natural death. But that said, I am disappointed that ModiJi doesn't have much to show on the corruption front relative the campaign noise he made.

Ditto his Pak policy, I mean he went hammer and tongs against MMS, but in power, he has nothing much to show except one surgical strike. I am not an expert on military affairs, so will leave to to them to devise the best military strategy, but on the political front, ModiJi has been lacking. For a nationalist govt, I would have thought he would have demanded to TSP to lower their embassy staff, done away with with that disgusting equal equal colonial era ritual at Wagah, and castrated the Harried rats instead of giving them Z-level security.

Anyway, in terms of the opposition traitors going after ModiJi, their only trump card if at all, has been and still is "intolerance". You can expect a lot rehashing of Mohammed Iklaq, Pehlu Khan etc as 2019 approaches. Karnataka police may even unearth some faint connection between some unknown Hindu and Gauri Lankesh as assembly elections loom and create some negativity against BJP. There are enough hate crimes going on every day in India for Pappu's media like UndY to hype and associate BJP with that. Finally, in the rough and tuble of Indian politics, someone associated with BJP will make a nutty remark and that will be given a lot of air time to put BJP on the defensive.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:38 pm

one gets reminded of 40 saal banam 40 mahine warcry used by ex PM ChadraShekhar :|
Compare 48-year rule of one family with NDA's 48 months: Narendra Modi https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... n=ETTWMain

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Sachin » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:53 pm

Indrad wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:35 am
MehtaRahulC wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:55 am
Solution is that true nationalist and true anti-corruption people should start working to create new TRUE nationalist, TRUE secular and TRUE anti-corruption political/electoral alternatives.

And we should vote for THAT alternative.
thank you loooong write up now imagine you are in line to vote on fateful day: whom will you vote for
1. Congress
....
3. BJP
You missed an option. Mr. Mehta-ji, himself ;) :D.

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Post by hanumadu » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:07 pm

Indrad wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:38 pm
one gets reminded of 40 saal banam 40 mahine warcry used by ex PM ChadraShekhar :|
Compare 48-year rule of one family with NDA's 48 months: Narendra Modi https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... n=ETTWMain
Wasn't it 40 days?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:29 pm

crams wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:48 pm
One can criticize ModiJi for whatever reason, and even I die hard fan of his like me have (for e.g., his blow hot, blow cold Paki policy, poor implementation of demo etc), but anybody who calls him 'corrupt' without a shred of evidence like RahulMehtaC does, needs to get their head examined by a mental doctor.
Well...for the record, a sher-e-hakim in these pages had read his posts and opined. A medical term was actually used... :lol: (but yes, there was no physical examination). Back to regular programming.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by srikumar » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:05 pm

chetak wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:22 pm
WHY No Award-Wapsi, NO Candle-Light March ??
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It requires a special level of mental depravity and cruelty to beat someone to death who is tied up and helpless... (and his only 'crime' was to steal food). And they actually took a picture before the beating started. This guy must have been in terror.

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Post by crams » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:40 pm

Chetak/Sri, saw some twitter activity on that. Cricketer Virendra Sehwag posted that with the name of of the killers, all p!ssful names. Within no time, usual suspects: Ramachandra Guha (he is such f!king hypocrite), Turdesai et. al attacked him for not quoting the Hindu names involved to which Sehwag apologized profusely. In any case, a gory killing like this ought to be condemned no matter who the killers are.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by crams » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:34 am

Does anybody know how well attended was Pappu's rally in Karnataka? Compared with that of ModiJi in palace grounds a few days before which according to even anti-ModiJi rags like HT, was pretty impressive.

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Post by hanumadu » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:44 am

Does anybody know the location of Hyderabad Gems SEZ, a subsidiary of Gitanjali Gems? Out of the nearly 6000 cr or property seized by ED in the PNB fraud case, more than 3000 cr is from Hyderabd alone which includes the SEZ which is 200 acres. Perhaps, its not such an over estimate that the value of the assets seized is 5,600 cr.

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Post by Gus » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:54 am

the breakup of what's seized is not in public domain. they will only be giving out 'book value' anyways..when it is sold/auctioned ..only then we will know how much loss.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Gus » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:58 am

Trilobite wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:31 am
Indrad wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:30 pm
Trilobite what is your suggestion re who should be voted for in 2019 to power?
That is a tough one.
if after 4 years of modi and being active on political forums, you cannot make up your mind, then either that's a lie , or you are not able to understand what you want from leaders. both are bad options for you.

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