sbajwa wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:28 pm
Rahul Mehta your post is wrong!
Gurmeet Ram Rahim not only raped but also murdered along with castrating many boys to keep watch over his Harem (check google for many such stories and interviews on youtube. He was using the tactics directly out of Islam. Now his followers (not 3 crores as he claims) are converting to Islam. The dera sacha sauda is and was a Jhootha Sauda. Congress shielded him and BJP convicted him for all the right reasons.
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Say a girl tells in year 2002 that you had raped her in 1999. Then should you be convicted merely based on that statement, that too taken n year 2006, and NO evidence , witness and NOT even cross examination of accused? And even if past statements before policemen by same girl had opposite statement and made no mention of rape? Do you really believe that Magistrates will never lie while noting statements (no video)? And victim is always right?
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Btw, Dera has some over 1 crore followers (not 3 crore or 6 crore as they say). And I have met over 15 people PERSONALLY who lives in DSS including 2 student girls , who stayed in hostel just 1 km away from "gufa" !!! One girl was OBC Sikh , but had applied as general as she could not get OBC certoficate. She had cleared IAS prelims (dont know what happened in mains). She had been DSS follower against wish of her family since she was 14 years old !! And they all say --- they never heard of any such activities in and around DSS, Sirsa.
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I have heard of countless LIES against Sant Asaram Bapu --- that he was serial rapist and all that. And all that were just lies.
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If Baba Ram Rahimji was murderer etc, then why didnt policemen chased THOSE cases first? Why give preecedence to rape cases? Simple --- in rape conviction is possible WITHOUT evidence
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And btw, thanks for accepoting that BJP = RSS did do a hit job on Baba Gurmeet Ram Rahimji . Because most DSS followers still rever Modiji !!! And most Hinduvaadies dont agree with me that RSS = BJP is actively behind destroying DSS
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You say "Dera followers are now coverting to islam". Well, Baba Gurmeetji was keeping them glued to Hinduism. Now Baba is gone and knocked dpwn. The followers are deep state of depression. So Missionaries , Islamists --- you name it --- all are poaching. So yes, some may become Muslim, some may convert to Missionaries. The real question was --- why did so many Dalit Sikhs leave SGPC? because Badals had kicked them out of structure !!! Instead of fixing corrupt Badals, Akalies decied to take down Baba and DSS !! Well, obviously Is;lamists and Missionarfies now have free field in poaching DSS's followers
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Btw, care to put some sentences on corruption and land grabbing of Badals and RSS = BJP leaders in Punjab? How many of them are drug dealers? Or rather, how many are NOT drug dealers?
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DSS is down , and may get destroyed. Time will tell. But RSS / Badals have done HUGE favor to Missionaries (and also Islamists, as some DSS followers may turn to Islam , though most will get poached by Missionaries). For their short term benefits , Badals and RSS have given Dalits to Missioanries on a silver platter.
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And thanks again for mentioning that "BJP worked to get Baba ram Rahimji jailed". Because I am really having hard time convincing Hinduvaadies that BJP = RSS can even do such thing on a Hindu Baba.
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Added later --- about castration claims. Pls google on number of males across India / world (or even USA) go opt for castration. The number is shocking high and rising !!! The reasons are social / psycological, and such people often become followers of Baba / Guru. That does not mean Baba / Guru forced them. If he forces one person do go for castration, then next day --- all will run away !!! Now bikau mediamen claim that he had 400 such castartated volunteers !! My advice to all will be --- pls dont listen to people like bikau Sardesai or bikau arnab. Pls select 100-200 people at RANDOM from voter list of Sirsa. Ask them --- and yes, some people hated Baba , but many many revered him. There are LAKHS of de-addiction , prostiture marriages, widow marriages, adoption etc done by Dera.
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Anyway --- my final take --- Jury Trials. Because left to judges, trust me --- tomorow anyone of BRF will get convicted as rapist !!!