The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - Oct 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Triank » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:16 am

Sachin wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:22 am
Triank wrote:had any of you here speculated or predicted about EJs & allies targeting Mandir-wealth under the pretext of Kerala floods? sorry, haven't yet checked last couple of pages. if yes, your prediction is coming true!
The EJs & Allies still run a campaign why Gods in kerala require money, when the state is flooded. But there again people have caught up in the game and said; "that is fine provided Gods in Temples, Churches and Mosques do NOT require any money".
thats good!
and then some more could be asked....like, why should wealth-distribution be an onus on the Temples alone! since dhimmedia of esp KL wont ask such a question or give coverage, will have to be raised again via the 'troll' SM.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:29 am

Swamy and sonia, pappu in the same frame!!

no sign or even the trace of a smile on pappu's face. where as, normally, he can be seen grinning inanely at funerals and in various ICUs across the country when calling on them to see critically ill people.

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Floral tributes was paid to Rajiv Gandhi former Prime Minister in Central Hall Of Parliament today morning on the birth Anniversary of Rajiv Gandhi : Present was Speaker, Ex Pm Manmohan Singh, LK Advani ji, Dr @Swamy39 & other leaders
5:34 AM - 20 Aug 2018


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I see Dr Swamy smiling and many others terrified. Buddhu looks like Supandi a comical figure.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:40 am

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Arvind Gunasekar @arvindgunasekar

An advocate from Kerala moved CJI’s residence for urgent hearing for his plea seeking direction to Centre to scale up the relief and rescue efforts in Kerala and also to increase relief fund from mere ₹500 crores; Registrar instructed him to move tomorrow morning
#KeralaFloods
9:04 AM - 19 Aug 2018 from New Delhi, India

Sumeet Joshi @SJoshiRaj

Replying to @arvindgunasekar

Sumeet Joshi Retweeted Arvind Gunasekar

1) What was the fund released by Centre during Uttarakhand floods (2013) in which:
Around 6000 ppl died
4200 villages devastated
1 lakh people were displaced/affected directly.

1000 Crores

2) Also would love to know how much did Kerala govt donate then?
Dear @sureshpprabhu & @jayantsinha : Please monitor & intervene to control the over charged prices to Kerala airports. As Kochi airport closed traffic to Trivandrum &Kozhikode increased &many Pvt airlines started increasing. Unfair during this calamity. Put more Air India flights

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Spoke to an Army Officer involved in rescue operations in Kerala. He says that the way the locals have come together to help the forces & each other is exceptional. The society has shown great patience, courage & resolve. “I am trying to find victims. All I see are heroes”.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:06 am

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S Gurumurthy @sgurumurthy
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The best tribute to Atalji's. Not a single word necessary.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:20 am

here is an urban naxal in action

Rajdeep SardesaiVerified account @sardesairajdeep
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Kerala finance minister Thomas Issac tells me: I don’t want to pick up a fight with the centre, but I leave it to the people and the central government to decide whether Rs 600 crore is enough given the scale of the devastation @IndiaToday #KeralaSOS
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Dumal » Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:49 pm

chetak wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:29 am
Swamy and sonia, pappu in the same frame!!

no sign or even the trace of a smile on pappu's face. where as, normally, he can be seen grinning inanely at funerals and in various ICUs across the country when calling on them to see critically ill people.

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Floral tributes was paid to Rajiv Gandhi former Prime Minister in Central Hall Of Parliament today morning on the birth Anniversary of Rajiv Gandhi : Present was Speaker, Ex Pm Manmohan Singh, LK Advani ji, Dr @Swamy39 & other leaders
5:34 AM - 20 Aug 20


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I see Dr Swamy smiling and many others terrified. Buddhu looks like Supandi a comical figure.


Has pappu lost weight? He looks emaciated! Is it the Galla@amaron guy the one to his left? Maybe the TDP and the Cons are thick friends now?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by rhytha » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:00 pm

arshyam wrote:
Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:27 pm
The good Prof makes some good points. Let's bury this topic forever.

Off course Prof.V is being ingenuous, Freight equalization was terminated in 1993.

Manufacturing industries took advantage of the ports in the coast to save on the freight cost, with License raj in place till 1991, i presume thats the least they can take advantage of, its a wonder that there was industries anywhere in India before 1991.

The non-psu's where the bulk employers then and now. And what about the education policies of Kamaraj, MGR etc, Kerala had good education setup from King Raviverma's time.

Not to say anything about the Law&Order. Apart from Kerala which is remittance economy, the other 3 states did have some modicum of good industrial policies and went through executing it. Even now AP $ Telegana has best business environment to attract more industries. What is stopping WB, UP or Bihar from having single window clearance industries to attract them to their state.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:52 pm

chetak wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:20 am
here is an urban naxal in action
Time to find out how much Kerala has contributed to other states which had been hit by natural disasters.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:57 pm

RVAIDYA2000 @rvaidya2000

Power and hold of commies in our Media--Did you notice that not a single Media --print and TV-- has made even mild criticism of Kerala CM/Govt --as if they were 110% perfect--Imagine if it were Maha or UP etc--That is the control commies hve on Media:)) RT
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:28 pm

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by achoudhury » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:21 pm

rhytha wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:00 pm
arshyam wrote:
Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:27 pm
The good Prof makes some good points. Let's bury this topic forever.

What is stopping WB, UP or Bihar from having single window clearance industries to attract them to their state.
The entire Hindi Belt lagged development as it fell behind in politics. After independence, Most of these states bought Nehru's dream of "tryst with destiny" in wholesale. It basically assumed that there is no political friction among communities and nation will march as per its destiny. It has to be acknowledged that Southern States were politically more aware and fought for their Identity, settled the social justice ( actually went overboard) and barring kerala did not face much communal tension. This made the polity more or less stable and hence governance could focus on basic necessities like education and health and by 1991 south as a whole was much ahead on HDI compared to hindi belt. After liberalization, this became a huge competitive advantage and all communities benefited secularly. South as well coastal MH and GJ also used the natural advantage of a huge coastline to its advantage. OTOH till 70's , Hindi Belt was still in romance of new found Independence and was entirely dependent on dole driven economics. One big industry here and there, notwithstanding. The social justice started being an issue in 80's and even till today polity is not settled in vast part of UP and Bihar which is further complicated by communal tensions. Basically, Entire hindi belt missed the bus in 1991 as it was just not ready and most of it is not ready even now. You can see that RJ and MP has broken away from these BIMARU states as their polity became bipolar around 1990. In fact, MP may be the next breakout state as it has good infrastructure, well connected cities, and even social indices have improved a lot. UP and Bihar may remain a laggard unless the politics breaks away from caste.

Waste Bengal is a story in itself. A sterling example of how to fritter competitive advantage by choosing wrong politics.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Rahul M » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:39 pm

2013 Rajasthan was not a NDA govt. please correct this (if this was created by you) and a clear pattern emerges, only non-BJP states are callous about suffering of fellow Indians.
* punjab is the only exception, then again BJP is a junior partner there.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:55 pm

Rahul M wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:39 pm
2013 Rajasthan was not a NDA govt. please correct this (if this was created by you) and a clear pattern emerges, only non-BJP states are callous about suffering of fellow Indians.
* punjab is the only exception, then again BJP is a junior partner there.
Not created by me. Found on twitter and posted.

At first glance, it seemed OK to me but you have the better eye for detail.

In 2013, the non BJP states simply followed dilli's unspoken dictats and also shared their likes and dislikes.

The dilli mafia ruled with an iron hand,

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by crams » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:15 am

Guys, what is Farooq Abdullah smoking. On Arnab's show, he is sounding more patriotic than the king with Bharat mata ki jai slogans and taking on separatist slime balls. Whats the politics behind his change? Is it just a charade?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by RajaRaja » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:26 am

Rahul M wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:39 pm
2013 Rajasthan was not a NDA govt. please correct this (if this was created by you) and a clear pattern emerges, only non-BJP states are callous about suffering of fellow Indians.
* punjab is the only exception, then again BJP is a junior partner there.
Seems like some of the errors are deliberate, thus a useless propaganda piece. Shows Bihar contribution to Uttarakhand flood 2013 as zero when Bihar had actually contributed 5 crore.

Uttarakhand floods: More states join relief efforts; Bihar, Odisha give Rs 5 crore aid

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:35 am

crams wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:15 am
Guys, what is Farooq Abdullah smoking. On Arnab's show, he is sounding more patriotic than the king with Bharat mata ki jai slogans and taking on separatist slime balls. Whats the politics behind his change? Is it just a charade?
This is the entitled and shameless abdullah family's regular flip flop: jai jehadi and jai Bharat mata as dictated by the prevailing circumstances.

They may be setting up to ingratiate themselves with the changed power structure after the recent appointment of the new governor in J&K.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Lilo » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:53 pm

Isn't this the same guy (Swami Chakrapani) who is in news for some nonsense he uttered? Looks like he belongs to the ecosystem.
https://twitter.com/JyotiSNK/status/1032418813126426626

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Rahul M » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:13 pm

Haldiram wrote:
Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:26 am
Rahul M wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:39 pm
2013 Rajasthan was not a NDA govt. please correct this (if this was created by you) and a clear pattern emerges, only non-BJP states are callous about suffering of fellow Indians.
* punjab is the only exception, then again BJP is a junior partner there.
Seems like some of the errors are deliberate, thus a useless propaganda piece. Shows Bihar contribution to Uttarakhand flood 2013 as zero when Bihar had actually contributed 5 crore.

Uttarakhand floods: More states join relief efforts; Bihar, Odisha give Rs 5 crore aid
protest too much ? ;)
the odisha data is present correctly, please read.
so, adding the bihar & odisha data points, the callous ones are INC/UPA ones.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Lilo » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:48 pm

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This is also part of how India sees itself. Changing India’s image for the world has been an ongoing national project for a while now. In the early 2000s, former foreign and finance minister Jaswant Singh had made the first move to tell India’s major donors that it no longer needed aid. The UPA government completed that initiative of taking India out of that global box.

So, it would be ridiculous to expect the present government to suddenly reverse that policy and accept foreign aid. (Although the Maldives’ help could be an olive branch, accepting which could make regional geopolitical sense.) Successive Indian governments have also discovered that once you open those gates, you end up with a lot of unnecessary diplomatic obligations, doubtful assistance and very little upside....

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 506672.cms
AID is different to Donation.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by crams » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:10 pm

Guys, I am f!king frustrated once again with BJP's response to Pappu's low-IQ seditious cacophony in Germany:

1. Why couldn't BJP have hit back saying that Congoons being holier than though on Pappu's claim of lack of social mobility leading to extremism, they could have cited Pappu's rise to leader of opposition simply by virtue of his dynasty and Italian European heritage, and other members of opposition would have been terrorists by now for their inability to rise to the top echelons of power :-)?

2. His utter horse manure and nonsense on US invasion of Iraq and unemployment causing rise of ISIS etc. In response, not one BJP spokesman attacked Pappu for his Nehruvian self righteous preachy sermons that has been the leitmotif of Indian foreign policy under Congoons. Does anybody really think US honchos could give a hoot for such lofty introspective garbage? In fact, the architect of Iraq dystopia, Bush Jr. is having a jolly good time in Texas giving useless speeches (like Pappu) for mega bucks, hunting wild birds, drinking, and eating Texas T-bone stakes. No white American gives a rodent's ass for the their gang rape of Iraq and its aftermath.

3. WTF does Al Queda have to with India? Not one word in BJP's response about the real terror problem that afflicts India: Pakis. BJP could have responded by pointed out cause of terror is not unemployment and poverty, but ideology and Paki state sponsorship and cited the number of Indians killed and continues unabated. Instead this Al Queda and ISIS balderdash that has little or no impact on India and is the Gold standard for terror set by US and its western lackeys to let their munnas like Pakis off the hook.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Lilo » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:01 pm

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Actually what RaGa vomited out is text book Western liberal line on ISIS - its deconstruction though vigorously and completely done many times over by the personalities in various rightwing movements is yet to be granted mainstream legitimacy in all major democracies in the world including India.

This counterfactual "terror has no religion" trope and terror is b/c of lack of jobs , or due to poverty or due to injustice etc is used to keep a grip on affairs especially at the Govt and Bureaucratic level discourse.Trump afaik is one solid exception as on today.


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:51 am


D A @diwakaran_a 9h
Replying to @surnell @narendramodi

Just wondering if all these drama of RS 700 Cr AID from UAE & Blaming GOI for all & Sundry was to divert the attention from the #inaction by GoK ?

Had they acted in time & responsibly, wouldn't this Man Made Floods (have) been avoided ?
Prasanna Viswanathan @prasannavishy

Cock and Bull story of Rs.700 crore aid from UAE for Kerala flood relief. Who fooled Kerala CM? Who played mischief? Without a written offer, how can a Chief Minister fall for such hearsays? https://www.pgurus.com/cock-and-bull-st ... -mischief/ … via @PGurus1

Kerala floods: UAE says nothing official yet, no amount of financial aid announced


With his country at the centre of a debate in India over acceptance of Rs 700 crore foreign aid for flood-ravaged Kerala — that debate is now a political slugfest between the Left that runs Kerala and the BJP which leads the government at the Centre — UAE Ambassador Ahmed Albanna told The Indian Express Thursday that there has been no official announcement so far by the UAE on any specific amount as financial aid.

“The assessment of relief needed for the flood and aftermath is ongoing. Announcing any specific amount as financial aid, I don’t think it is final, since it is still ongoing,” Albanna said.

Asked if he meant that the UAE had not announced Rs 700 crore in aid, he said: “Yes, that is correct. It is not yet final. It has not been announced.”

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Nandu » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:47 am

Now it is time for the mainstream media to say 'UAE aid could exceed Rs 700 cr'.

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