The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - Oct 2018)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by MehtaRahulC » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:15 am

Admins,

The article becomes uneditable after a few minutes. Can you keep the window for editing open for at least 24 hours?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Supratik » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:35 am

Sachin, it is tactical. Kapil Sibal is well known Congressi. Rajeev Dhawan OTOH is not well known or politician but Congressi. Probably Kapil will reduce his visibility and advice from sidelines or wait for 2019 elections to be over unless SC can pass judgment before that.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:36 am

MehtaRahulC wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:53 am
1. cunningly Modi-supporters hide defunctness of Modiji.
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How Dear Audience,

You can see how cunningly Modi-supporters hide defunctness of Modiji by blaming someone else in RSS for mess Modiji is making.. Pls see https://bharatganrajya.com/viewtopic.ph ... 9470#p9470


Its more than clear to everyone in India that Modiji has refused to bring changes in RTE using money bill or joint session. And it is Modiji who is harassing Hindu school owners using RTE via CMs and Central HRD Minister. And it is Modiji who is forcing them to hand over schools to RSS-leaders or Missionaries. But resident Modi-supporters cover this by creating a FAKE scene that ONLY DF or HRD minister and only RTE law is responsible for this , and not Sri Modiji !!!


In past 3.5 years, Modiji has ruined 1000s of Hindu schools owners and worse will happen if Modiji comes back in may-2019. So solution I propose to ALL nationalists is that using twitter/FB , newindia.in/causes and other means, pls let us all work to create an alternative to these defunct SoMoke
.4. Coming soon --- something better than notebandhi and GST !!

Modiji''s favorite is eWayBill System. It was supposed to come from 2-april-2018, but now they have been postponed to 18-april-2018. Modi-supporters say that eWayBill System will benefit small manufacturers etc !! My claim is that eWayBill System drafted by Modiji will totally crush small / medium factories/business and transporters. So imo, nationalists should start acting via FB/twitter etc as soon as possible.
Mehta Ji, Why does it always feels like you are batting for Congress system. See your posts above. Blame ModiJi even for municipal and state level problems. As far GST, irrespective of whosoever was in Govt, it would have been implemented. Then blame Sh.Modiji.

Isn't it obvious that most of us on BGR are hardcore NM supporters and if that means glossing over few things, that haven't been done yet, so be it. I would still take NM with no RTE/RJB/Demo than any political middle man masquerading as leader.
You know we have been with Modi Sarkaar for last 4 years and guess what, country has progressed since then and life is better.

You talked about eWayBill but pls enlighten us how it will destroy SME sector ?

No Govt in the world can do everything that every voters desires is the bottom line, so you gotta deal with it.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:43 am

Vikas wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:36 am
You talked about eWayBill but pls enlighten us how it will destroy SME sector ?
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No Govt in the world can do everything that every voters desires is the bottom line, so you gotta deal with it.
The sad part is that at the end of the long posts, there is no options given out. For better governance, or for a better government. One standard statement is about a "law draft".

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Post by chetak » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:11 pm

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Post by chetak » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:19 pm

CA seems to be involved in the brexit verdict too.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by shynee » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:19 pm

Actually he is taunting them for not being part of decision making process on TT. Watch from 5:40

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/978890489490542592
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So he is saying TT will be passed. And he is taunting the idiot opposition MPs who did not pass it. :)

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Gus » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:31 pm

folks have to examine their SM feeds to check if they have been targeted and influenced

https://twitter.com/mkstwitts/status/977276645961641984


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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:14 pm

Sachin wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:43 am
Vikas wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:36 am
You talked about eWayBill but pls enlighten us how it will destroy SME sector ?
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No Govt in the world can do everything that every voters desires is the bottom line, so you gotta deal with it.
The sad part is that at the end of the long posts, there is no options given out. For better governance, or for a better government. One standard statement is about a "law draft".
Sachin da, read between the lines. The option is always Congress system being promoted in the garb of Hai Hai Modi and how we should throw him out. Funnily like RoP followers, he too has this martyr syndrome as if whole BRF community is out to get him :)) :))

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:16 pm

Gus wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:31 pm
folks have to examine their SM feeds to check if they have been targeted and influenced

https://twitter.com/mkstwitts/status/977276645961641984
Did you notice that in last few months, there is distinctly flood of posts in fb and WhatsApp mocking NM and creating meme around him and we were told that this is because he is losing popularity.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:16 pm

One of the easiest groups to exploit is the 'Modi is not doing enough for Hindutva' folks. That is why we see so many fake profiles fanning that feeling.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Vikas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:31 pm

hanumadu wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:16 pm
One of the easiest groups to exploit is the 'Modi is not doing enough for Hindutva' folks. That is why we see so many fake profiles fanning that feeling.
Lot of this is following the herd. e.g. Almost anyone would know the issue with RTE or temples run by Govt but Modi is not doing enough for Hindus is the war cry of these fake posters.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by dnivas » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:50 pm

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The normally loquacious Congress party has been keeping a stony silence on the Demand Notice of Income Tax (IT) Department, levying a fine of Rs.249.15 crores ($38.4 million) on Young Indian. PGurus have accessed the three-page Income Tax Demand Notice and it shows that the tax notice was dated December 27, 2017, giving them up to 30 days to appeal. This notice was sent by the tax department on Young Indian for hushing up taxable income to the tune of Rs.414 crores ($63.8 million).

The 105-page Assessment Order[1] came to the public domain only after the petitioner and BJP leader Subramanian Swamy placed this document in the trial court in his private case on January 20, 2018. Even the lawyers representing Sonia and Rahul Gandhi were caught off-guard by this stunning document exposing more frauds in the National Herald case

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Gus » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:34 pm

Vikas wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:16 pm

Did you notice that in last few months, there is distinctly flood of posts in fb and WhatsApp mocking NM and creating meme around him and we were told that this is because he is losing popularity.
yes..i sensed that message pushing a few months back..

right after guj elections i posted along these lines - get behind modi or get out. don't say you are hindutva, nationalist etc and whine about modi. if you are knowingly doing it, then you are malevolent and if you are unwittingly doing it, despite many here pointing to what's happening, then you are a gullible useful idiot.

the caste leaders who are all of the same template..same age group and same arguments used, and then from the other angle - the pushing of "what modi did for hindutva :)) :)) :)) " whines, the "modi failed to jail, therefore both party are the same on corruption :)) :)) :)) " ..

the alacrity with which the ecosystem picks it up and amplifies it indicates a procedure in place to push this messaging out. rahul and his gang of diggys, aiyars and tharoors are not capable of this sort of orchestration.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:48 pm

Gus wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:34 pm
Vikas wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:16 pm

Did you notice that in last few months, there is distinctly flood of posts in fb and WhatsApp mocking NM and creating meme around him and we were told that this is because he is losing popularity.
yes..i sensed that message pushing a few months back..

right after guj elections i posted along these lines - get behind modi or get out. don't say you are hindutva, nationalist etc and whine about modi. if you are knowingly doing it, then you are malevolent and if you are unwittingly doing it, despite many here pointing to what's happening, then you are a gullible useful idiot.

the caste leaders who are all of the same template..same age group and same arguments used, and then from the other angle - the pushing of "what modi did for hindutva :)) :)) :)) " whines, the "modi failed to jail, therefore both party are the same on corruption :)) :)) :)) " ..

the alacrity with which the ecosystem picks it up and amplifies it indicates a procedure in place to push this messaging out. rahul and his gang of diggys, aiyars and tharoors are not capable of this sort of orchestration.
A lot of these messages may be from automated bots. Many of these bots have been tracked to obscure central asian "republics" with barely pronounceable names.

pappus suddenly increased rise in SM activity was very noticeable after his return from the US trip.

His frequent and secretive disappearances from the country may be related to his collaboration with CA.

Everything about this guy stinks real bad.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by chetak » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:57 pm

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by crams » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:33 pm

Guys,

look at this love-fest between ShotGun, Yashwant Sinha, Arun Shourie and Jihadi Mamta. Why are these BJP losers still within the party? Is politics so vile that there is no ideology left, only personal hatred of one another or caste hatred? I mean even a pea-brained journo would ask losers like this trio on what aspects of BJP do they believe in if they are so openly colluding with opposition to unseat ModiJi?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... g8KPO.html

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by crams » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:30 pm

Guys, add North South divide to the list of Hindu fault lines that Congoons are using through Cambridge Analytics to steal the election in 2019.

The interesting thing about CA's modus operendi is that all they are doing is to create negative sentiment against whomever it is they are trying to target (nothing very earth shattering, just that they are skillfully using social media tools to exploit fault lines).

In India's case, Congoon strategy is to create anti-BJP sentiment thats it. They don't have to offer any alternative. And people, being people have this instinct to lash out and show their anger by default against whoever is in power. So be it economy, be it foreign investment, be it dealing with TSP, be it dealing with massive unemployment and poverty, rural distress, farmer suicide, Kashmir etc there is nothing, nada, zilch that the orangutan Pappu (and my apologies for insulting orangutans) and his slaves that now include even BJP members like ShotGun, Yashwant Sinha, Arun Shourie etc; have to offer.

In fact, if the people are even pea-brained (and I am sorry to say 99% of people everywhere are dumb with a capital D, and in India's case its mostly caste, caste, and caste), they will realize that in India, it was Pappu and his slaves who created this mess for over 70+ years. Yet their memory is short, their patience is so thin that here is a son-of-the-soil, proud but humble Hindu in ModiJi and his sons-of-the-soil BJP lieutenants who are trying to reverse this mess, but people are falling prey to opposition antics. Or at least appear to be falling for them. We don't know yet. But thx to companies like CA and those in opposition in India who are using their services, there is a massive anti-BJP sentiment being created. The caste divide, and the north south divide are potent fissures that if harnessed could sink not only BJP but India itself as we know it.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Gus » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:39 pm

crams wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:33 pm
look at this love-fest between ShotGun, Yashwant Sinha, Arun Shourie and Jihadi Mamta. Why are these BJP losers still within the party?
because the bjp is doing the right thing by ignoring dogs barking. dogs will stop barking when you ignore them. you give them attention and dogs bark more. and then neighbors ask whats wrong, why do you hate dogs, why are you torturing dogs etc.

spending time on these people is a waste of time. amit shah etc are deliberately choosing ignore / indifference. maybe you should too...

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Gus » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:23 am

bjp has developed timesnow and republic very well it seems. both are able to get damning leaks and evidences and run good exposes.

the CA thing is blowing up on congress majorly.

what is the trp trend in recent months on english channels?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by SSundar » Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:17 am

I can say from my WhatsApp groups that the other side has pretty much given up on Times Now and Republic. Anything that these channels report is automatically discarded as propaganda. I think TRP trends still show these two channels on top. So, there is a silent, non-intellectual majority that prefers to watch these channels.

On CA, I see some of my friends are claiming that BJP too used CA but tactfully exposed only the Congis. When reality does not match your perception, create a new perception explaining away that reality :D .

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by hanumadu » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:33 am

If not for last minute pinch hitting by Namo, Gujarat was a lost cause.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:20 am

^ I still maintain that NM can/should slowly ramp up pressure for Indic causes in parallel with the vikas juggernaut. Neither takes away from the other.

Else, falling back on the core voter by making last-minute appeals come poll-time - having otherwise studiously ignored that voter all this while in power - reeks of opportunism. And doesn't do anybody ('cept BIF) any favors.

At least consider the possibility of taking us Indic voters along from the start rather than opportunistically at the end. At least consider acknowledging that we have our [genuine] concerns just as other voters do. Its OK if Modi sarkar can't do anything about our concerns right away, we are willing to listen and sympathize and understand - but acknowledge that you share our concerns, at least in principle!

And if that's too much to ask for, too bad. We'll continue to call out these things about Modi sarkar even while voting for it. Only.

P.S. I understand some here are viscerally against hearing any "Indic PoV" criticism of NM. Have seen otherwise civil folks go into spasms and spewing bile and labels at the "core Indic" voter in no time. Have seen righteous attempts to muzzle particular PoVs on this board time and again. Have seen propagandu, lies and fakery righteously spoken (e.g., Indic voters == caste idiots, as declaratively proclaimed above, which is patently and blatantly false). Theek hai.

P.P.S. Was a time when such did bother me a tad. Now, I think I can live with their shenanigans. Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:00 am

93% rural households with access to toilets using them: Survey (TOI)
NEW DELHI: Over 93 per cent households in villages who have access to toilets are using them and about 77% homes in rural areas have got toilets, the annual rural sanitation survey has found.

The survey, NARSS 2017-18, conducted by an independent verification agency under the World Bank support project to the Swachh Bharat Mission Gramin (SBM-G), has also re-confirmed the Open Defecation Free (ODF) status of about 96% of villages which were previously declared and verified as ODF by various districts and states.

The survey was conducted between mid-November 2017 and mid-March 2018 and covered 92,040 households in 6,136 villages across India.
Nails the lie that Coupta and party were furiously peddling yesterdin on twitter that according to some oxbridge study, 'em dutty yindooze are less likely to use toilets than 'em pious momeens. Effectively and unsubtly conflating the yindoo with open defecation by repeating association ad nauseo-stinkum.

The survey results if true are a testament to the staggering success of the swaccha bharat mission. Only.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - 2 (Mar 2018 - )

Post by Sachin » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:26 am

Vikas wrote:Did you notice that in last few months, there is distinctly flood of posts in fb and WhatsApp mocking NM and creating meme around him and we were told that this is because he is losing popularity.
hanumadu wrote:One of the easiest groups to exploit is the 'Modi is not doing enough for Hindutva' folks. That is why we see so many fake profiles fanning that feeling.
“The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes.” - Sherlock Holmes.
Now that CA like organisations have got exposed, I observed a few things. On my FB, I now see posts from certain new users. One of them is a Congress propoganda channel (they have not hidden that part), but I have not subscribed to them or got any friend requests from them. Yet, like how ads popup, these feeds also now come up. Their favourite is doling out short video clips from the various 9PM news debate in which some Congress chaps scores a point. Some times, it is on the central govt. (Na.Mo) or it is on the state government (Commies). To be fair, I also started getting some similar news feeds from a pro-Sangh group as well.

I saw the first signs of the "Modi is not doing enough for Hindutva" brigade, in BRF and then BGF. All of a sudden I saw lots of posters just hyping up the Hindutwa demands, and then lamenting that those are not fulfilled. And when the MSM started portraying folks like Togadia as angels, and now being critical of Modi; I could at least put 2+2 together.
crams wrote:look at this love-fest between ShotGun, Yashwant Sinha, Arun Shourie and Jihadi Mamta. Why are these BJP losers still within the party? Is politics so vile that there is no ideology left, only personal hatred of one another or caste hatred?
One thing I would for ever appreciate Amit Shah & Na.Mo (and any one else); that is their ability to smell out poisonous snakes. The duo (and perhaps the Sangh as well) were right from Day 1 of this government, the two Singhas, Advani and Shourie were traitors to the cause. And they were kept away from all areas of importance. That observation seems to be immensely true, when I see all of them now running behind Jihadi Mamta. What ever happens in 2019, A.Shah & Na.Mo knows who trustable people are. Useless idiots like the Sinhas, Shourie etc. have now completely exposed themselves and for them to continue in politics, Congress seems to be the likely option.
SSundar wrote:On CA, I see some of my friends are claiming that BJP too used CA but tactfully exposed only the Congis. When reality does not match your perception, create a new perception explaining away that reality
:lol:. In my social media circles, I am only seeing a stoic licenses. There was much euphoria the day when CA's activities were first reported. The "seculars" were over-joyed to find some news which supported their claim of BJP rigging elections. And then the inevitable came out; Congress had used such agencies to the hilt. A similar "joy turning into grief" was only seen during the Tripura elections vote counting day. The commies were leading, and they were rejoicing. Nothing about faulty EVMs this time. And then the tide turned, and they could not even start blaming the EVMs. Some of them then tried to find solace in saying; IB & RAW; helped the BJP :lol:.

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