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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:40 pm

Panasonic, Tata have deleted their tweet after protest on SM asking to celebrate cracker less Diwali
Want to understand what is the reason n behind these selective sermons?

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Post by crams » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:57 pm

Saw a BP-raising hit job on Aljazeera, featuring suspects like Rana Ayub, Rohini Singh, Rama Lakshmi etc; castigating Indian media for ignoring the allegation Wire put out against Amit Shah. Now, even without questioning the veracity of the wire story, the sense of entitlement of pukes wire is staggering: how dare anybody ignore their hit jobs. The zee news guy said it best, he said I was not convinced that the investigation was genuine.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by kittoo » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:08 pm

Indrad wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:40 pm
Panasonic, Tata have deleted their tweet after protest on SM asking to celebrate cracker less Diwali
Want to understand what is the reason n behind these selective sermons?
Quite a few HRs (and to some extent marketing) in a lot of companies are Christians. You can connect the dots from there as to why this selective sermonizing or why most of the NGOs for company CSR are the conversion kind.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Ayodhya is dazzling with 1.7 lakh diyas
CM himself present
its a shame what is natural right of Hindus has to be discussed in a political thread

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:40 pm

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pictures like these of Saryu River bank have left lift liberal crazy. Tongues wagging why is state involved?

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Rupesh » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:45 pm

It looks like Varanasi. Are you sure it's Ayodhya?.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Karthik » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:01 pm

So this is how Ayodhya looks.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Indrad » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:03 pm

#DiwaliInAyodhya kindly follow this


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second pic not sure but first posted by Yogi himself

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by dnivas » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:09 pm

Great pics!!!!

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Post by dnivas » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:13 pm

https://www.pgurus.com/lies-and-lies-of-p-chidambaram/
As the long arm of law is about to catch the former Finance & Home Minister, P Chidambaram has landed in Supreme Court with an unsolicited affidavit with “claims” of his innocence in Aircel-Maxis and INX Media bribe cases. In his eleven-page suo moto filed affidavit, Chidambaram cleverly tries to put the onus on top Finance Ministry officials and pretends that he was unaware of anything and simply signed the files of dubious Foreign Investment Promotion Board (FIPB) clearances.

The Supreme Court (SC) has not considered his affidavit till date in the case involving his son Karti. Chidambaram filed this affidavit in the case where the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) filed an appeal in blocking son Karti’s foreign trips. He cleverly avoided filing this affidavit in the case filed by Subramanian Swamy before the 2G Bench with details of father’s illegalities and son’s bribe-taking after father approved the dubious foreign investment approval in Aircel-Maxis scam.

Claiming that the Narendra Modi led National Democratic Alliance (NDA) Government is vindictive against him and his family, Chidambaram unabashedly tried to put the burden on top Finance Ministry officials. “Since the NDA Government came to power, the Central Government has been carrying on a politically motivated vendetta against my family and especially my son who is the first respondent herein,” said Chidambaram, accusing the “hardships” created by CBI, Enforcement Directorate (ED) and the Income Tax Department (ITD).

Playing these kinds of tricks like filing unsolicited affidavits is not new for Chidambaram. A few months ago in Madras High Court too, he played a similar trick and it was not considered by the Judges. Here Chidambaram is clearly misusing his position as a Senior Advocate title given by the Supreme Court. In his unsolicited petition, he reminds several times that he is a Senior Advocate title holder of Supreme Court.

Chidambaram tries several times to pass the burden onto former senior Finance Ministry officials such as Ashok Jha, Rakesh Mohan, D Subba Rao, Ashok Chawla and Arvind Mayaram for approving the dubious FIPB clearances in Aircel Maxis Scam and INX Media bribe cases. This should put the fear of God in the Finance Ministry Officials. It is as if they are being told, “Working for Chidambaram can be injurious to your health!”

While terming the approval of Aircel-Maxis deal as a normal transaction, Chidambaram evaded why the reason for not sending the file to the Cabinet Committee on Economic Affairs (CCEA), which was mandated as per the rules. He also tried to combine his case with Maran brothers Discharge from CBI case, which is now pending before Delhi High Court after the CBI challenged the trial court’s Order.

“I may add that, having regard to the above, I did not imagine that a routine act of granting approval to a recommendation of the FIPB placed before me by the FIPB would be subject to a motivated investigation by the various arms of the Government,” said Chidambaram, trying to pretend innocence in the dubious approval of Aircel-Maxis scam.
for affidavit, visit https://www.pgurus.com/lies-and-lies-of-p-chidambaram/

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Post by jamwal » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:58 pm

https://swarajyamag.com/culture/like-mi ... -legal-way

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What is it that has sounded the death knell for the ‘Indic way’ of life in the land of its origin? Ask this question and a recently formed group of individuals who call themselves the ‘Indic Collective’, offers clearly worded answers – not passionate banter but well-thought-out, legally sound responses.

The Indic Collective aims to take the route of advocacy and legal activism “whenever and wherever we find our culture and way of life under assault from political or cultural forces that have an agenda of their own under the garb of human rights or environmental concerns and the like”.

Registered in Chennai in June this year, the trust comprises activists, intellectuals and civil liberties advocates committed to the advocacy of Indic civil liberties through constitutional and democratic methods.

Their goal, as stated, is ‘to advocate, through constitutional and democratic means, the right of the Indic way of life to exist and thrive’. Some of the issues they are currently working on include the freeing of Hindu religious institutions from ‘unconstitutional’ state control, deportation of illegal immigrants who pose a threat to the demographic balance, national security and retrieval of stolen Indic religious and cultural artifacts, among others.

The trust has a core legal team, led by advocate J Sai Deepak, with the help of whom they intend to present the concerns and represent the ‘Indic interest’ before the courts of law.

Having recently approached the apex court seeking the deportation of Rohingyas, they were also the only ones to seek a relaxation on the ban on the sale of firecrackers in the National Capital Region.

A crowdfunded initiative, the trust aims to get the common person involved by taking their inputs on the website, interacting with followers and welcoming contributions on twitter and by inviting ideas to the email address namaste@indiccollective.org.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by sandy » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:54 pm

jamwal wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:07 pm
Some will become Sanghi, many others will become libtards. We need to make more sanghis.
Who will become libtards? At least in my circle, who voted Modi in 2014 and will not vote modi next election are crorepatis (arab Patti's) .

Everyone else saying TINA. They might rant against this government but will never vote for Congress.

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by Primus » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:54 pm

Rupesh wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:45 pm
It looks like Varanasi. Are you sure it's Ayodhya?.
Yes, the second photo definitely looks like Benaras. I have a photo of the exact same spot taken from the river and it is definitely the same place.

Never been to Ayodhya, must put it on my bucket list now. Looks beautiful.
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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:23 am

^^Will he bring in any street power? Won't BJP need street power to win it?

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Post by ArjunPandit » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:38 am

On CNN ibn debate led by a malsi lady, a maulana was preaching the BJP spokesperson about this being exchequer money. Didn't see it till the end, but hypocrite at its best. A community that takes money for madarssa and haj and asks what the govt can do for the qaum is speaking about exchequer money

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by KL Dubey » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:52 am

Pranab-da speaks sense:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 138847.cms

I think only national parties should be allowed to contest general elections to the Lok Sabha. The states are already represented in the Rajya Sabha and regional parties can send MPs there.

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Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:27 am

Glad to see this happening. Could have been green-lighted only with an unapologetic Hindu at the helm, IMHO.

1.7 Lakh Lamps In Ayodhya To Welcome Rama, Mandir To Follow Soon? (Swarajya)
With the Supreme Court scheduled to start daily hearing of the Ram Janmabhoomi case from December 5, the government of Uttar Pradesh has seemingly stepped up efforts for a strong cultural revival centred around Rama and his epic, prior to the much promised grand Ram temple at Ayodhya.

Elaborate plans are in place at Ayodhya to celebrate the return of Rama from Lanka after slaying Ravana, and put the holy city on the cultural map of the state as an important tourist destination.

In a Treta yuga redux of the victors returning to Ayodhya in the mythological Pushpak aircraft, Rama and Laxman --- along with Sita, Hanuman and Sugreev --- took off in a helicopter from the Faizabad airstrip and land at a helipad at Ram Katha Sthal, near the Ram Katha Park.

Governor Ram Naik, along with Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath, his cabinet colleagues and Union ministers Mahesh Sharma and KJ Alphons received them.

In a ‘never before’-like celebration of Diwali, Ramalila will be performed by artistes from Indonesia, Nepal and Sri Lanka at the Ram Katha Park which would be shown to people unable to reach the venue through hologram technology.

Parallel to these events, Ayodhya was preparing to book a spot in the Guinness Book of World Records by lighting 1.71 lakh diyas, earthen lamps, at Ram ki Paudi where a Saryu aarti would be performed. Prof Manoj Dixit, vice-chancellor of Awadh University, who was supervising the arrangements under the watch of two officials from Guinness, said that they would try to light 2 lakh earthen lamps using 11,000 litres of sesame oil and 850 kg of camphor.
Excellent. O yes, expect the psecs to howl about pollution/ environment/ exchequer or taxpayer money misspent/ EJ media cabal to sneer at the uncool unsophistication of the saffron robed monk and his dumb voters etc.

But march on regardless. Howlers will howl after all. Their fear and respect are reserved only for opponents who are firm in own-conviction and care nothing for elite opinions (e.g., the momeens, and now the hardening hindu soul on the right).

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:36 am

These are all good but the immediate need is to stop the demographic expansion of muslims. We have to get them to the same birth rate as Hindus and reduce their numbers through ghar wapsi. Cap on madrasas and islamic teachings. The next generation of muslims must not grow up hating India and Hindus.

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Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:31 am

hanumadu wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:23 am
^^Will he bring in any street power? Won't BJP need street power to win it?
Some rumours I hear are that the entire second rung in TMC stand implicated in Sharda and may well be amenable to jumping ship/cutting deals etc at the opportune moment - weeks/months before the polls.

Also, Mukul is a known org man, with massive grassroots connect down to the booth level (acc to a swarajya article). The same article draws parallels between Mukul and Himanta in Asom. Lawd knows we need one dearly in Bengal.

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Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:35 am

hanumadu wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:36 am
These are all good but the immediate need is to stop the demographic expansion of muslims. We have to get them to the same birth rate as Hindus and reduce their numbers through ghar wapsi. Cap on madrasas and islamic teachings. The next generation of muslims must not grow up hating India and Hindus.
In the first few weeks of Modi sarkar having sworn in, I recall the brouhaha over 'ghar-wapsi' that happened then.

The utter hypocrisy of lootyens psecs in opposing ghar-wapsi but refusing to countenance a national anti-conversion bill was stark indeed.

How chweetly coincidental then that the church attacks faux narrative chimed in with perfect timing.

Sure, that was early days. NM had yet to find sure footing yet in govt, so he downplaying overtly Hindutva agenda items like ghar-wapsi etc then was understandable, laudable even.

Now, into the fourth year of the first term however, will be hard to stop the sceptics and the questioners, IMHO. P.S. And yes, I verily count moiself among this growing tribe. Only.

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Post by Hari Seldon » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:21 am

This is the swarajya article I mntioned previously - reg the parallels between Himanta and Mukul.

https://swarajyamag.com/politics/can-mu ... -in-bengal

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Post by sanjayC » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:06 am

At Another Time, In Another Place, A Community Was Similarly Targeted For Its Festivals
Deepavali comes and also comes with it voices of ‘concern for the environment’ from a section of media and intellectuals. Suddenly Hindus are made to feel that the way they have been celebrating Deepavali for generations is actually a grave sin. 'Do not use crackers' is the bottom line as crackers have become the defining character of this festival of light in India.

This strange campaign is done to remove as much as possible from the public celebration of a Hindu festival. However, this is not the first time that such an agenda is afoot. Shaming Hindus to abandon the public exhibition of their festivals has been done in a sustained and systematic way from the colonial period.

And it goes on today. There have been protests against fireworks during Deepavali. Bans have been effected on Jalli Kattu during Pongal (Makara Sankranthi) in Tamil Nadu. Overt Hindu practices like fire-walking and hook-swinging have been decried constantly as barbaric and every year petitions are filed to stop them. Come Durga Puja or Navratri, outdated racist interpretations based on pseudo-scientific theses get peddled in a section of media.

Of late this has almost become a media ritual. Any popular Hindu festival is targeted along with its public manifestation. Either the festival is demeaned or its public exhibition is curtailed or both.

Not the first time in the history of the world

At another time in the past, in another place, a community was similarly targeted for celebrating its festivals.

David Baile, Professor of Jewish History at the University of California, traces how political antisemitism and animal right concerns colluded to create a discourse against Jewish culture:

The attacks on Jewish ritual slaughter originated in animal rights campaigns starting in the 1850s that had little to do with the Jews. It was only with the rise of political antisemitism in the 1880s that humane slaughter activists turned their wrath on the Jews or, more commonly, that antisemites exploited the new language of animal rights to attack Jewish practices. (‘Blood and discourses of Nazi Antisemitism’ in ‘Varieties of Antisemitism: History, Ideology, Discourse‘, 2009)

The campaign was effective. Switzerland banned the Jewish ritual in 1893, Norway and Bavaria followed suit in 1930 and in 1933 even before the Nazi ascendancy, entire Germany banned the Jewish ritual. It was in Poland, with the largest Jewish population, that the campaign became fierce. Top ranking Catholic clergyman Monsignor Stanislaw Trzeciak claimed that the ritual was not required by Mosaic Law.

The Catholic Church was arrogantly arrogating to itself the control of the religious narrative and authority over the cultural life of another religion. Rev. Trzeciak declared that the ritual was not only a 'concoction' of the rabbis but that it was 'a relic of eastern barbarism from the dark ages'. The Catholic Church suddenly exuded a new found mercy for the animals. The official organ of the Archdiocese of Warsaw called for action to end 'the barbarism properly described as the ritual murder of animals'. Prof. Ronald Modras, in his in-depth study ('The Catholic Church and Antisemitism', 2005) points out that the Church-catalyzed campaign also had the economic aim of removing Jews from meat industry.

In India the cracker-less Deepavali campaign coincides with the aggressive expansion of the market by Chinese cracker industry. Maybe a destruction of domestic market for Indian cracker industry can eliminate for the Chinese a potential competitor in the international cracker market.

What now?

Regardless, it is time Hindu scholars, like their Jewish counterparts, start studying academically these hate campaigns against their festivals and cultural practices the same way anti-Semitic propaganda had been studied and documented. Perhaps time has come for Hindu academics to run a peer-reviewed journal on anti-Hindu hatred and study the tactics as well as psychology of these hate-peddlers: a journal of anti-Hinduism or to borrow Rajiv Malhotra’s terminology, a ‘Journal of Hinduphobia in media, academia and social campaigns’.

Crackers have emission standards and decibel controls. If the norms are not followed then the problem lies elsewhere. Hindus need to understand the anti-Pagan hatred that animates the new-found ecological concerns. The string-pullers behind the campaign for cracker-less Deepavali do not really love birds and animal rights.
https://swarajyamag.com/culture/at-anot ... -festivals

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Re: The Great Indian Political Drama - Oct 2017

Post by hanumadu » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:35 am

Hari Seldon wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:35 am
hanumadu wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:36 am
These are all good but the immediate need is to stop the demographic expansion of muslims. We have to get them to the same birth rate as Hindus and reduce their numbers through ghar wapsi. Cap on madrasas and islamic teachings. The next generation of muslims must not grow up hating India and Hindus.
In the first few weeks of Modi sarkar having sworn in, I recall the brouhaha over 'ghar-wapsi' that happened then.

The utter hypocrisy of lootyens psecs in opposing ghar-wapsi but refusing to countenance a national anti-conversion bill was stark indeed.

How chweetly coincidental then that the church attacks faux narrative chimed in with perfect timing.

Sure, that was early days. NM had yet to find sure footing yet in govt, so he downplaying overtly Hindutva agenda items like ghar-wapsi etc then was understandable, laudable even.

Now, into the fourth year of the first term however, will be hard to stop the sceptics and the questioners, IMHO. P.S. And yes, I verily count moiself among this growing tribe. Only.
Ghar wapsi can only be a trickle, especially with the indoctrination the muslims receive from a very young age. Hard to convince them to convert. But demographics is an area where a BJP govt can play a greater part. I hope there is extra focus on this and govt is doing utmost to bring TFR of muslims down.

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Post by DeansN » Thu Oct 19, 2017 5:39 am

kittoo wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:08 pm
Indrad wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:40 pm
Panasonic, Tata have deleted their tweet after protest on SM asking to celebrate cracker less Diwali
Want to understand what is the reason n behind these selective sermons?
Quite a few HRs (and to some extent marketing) in a lot of companies are Christians. You can connect the dots from there as to why this selective sermonizing or why most of the NGOs for company CSR are the conversion kind.
It would be simplistic to point fingers at Christians or any other community. I'm Christian and do not support the cracker ban, or other restrictions on hindu sentiments.

I've also been a company CEO. I don't know any HR person from my community but can tell you that HR on their own plays little role in telling people what to do in their personal time. What is important is the corporate culture. As a CEO for e.g I've taken a strong stance against my employees circulating fake news, or taking any anti govt position on social media, particularly if it's factually incorrect, or hurts sentiments. It's not difficult to engage with such people and explain the facts behind things like Demo or Rohingya refugees.
There are companies - mostly the foreign ones with so called liberal values, that do propagate things like noiseless Diwali, gay rights, tolerance etc. I can only say that detracts from their focus on business and also causes resentment among sone employees.

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