Let me most humbly attempt to answer only.
Raju wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:49 am
you are sadly trapped in either-or scenario unable to view any other alternatives. What is this mysterious 'status quo' you keep talking about ?? If people want to be corrupt they will be, non amount of aadhar or niradhar is going to prevent the die-hard corrupts.
Fair enough but 2 points here.
1. If some Indians are innately like this only and "non amount" of anything can change that FACT, then NO govt should bother even trying to do *anything* reg corruption? Why even think, much less implement, *any* anti-corruption measure, sir?
2. Aadhaar isn't only about anti-corruption. It is also about service delivery + easing the burden on India's great masses of rural and urban poor reg a relatively foolproof Identity document. Tell me that it has failed *entirely* in that dimension.
This has other ramifications. Let tomorrow say Mr. S has a quarrel with his wife, and this Mr. S is straightforward brf/bgr types, then a 498a can see him derived of ph calls and bank a/c's frozen within one day. You won't even be able to call a lawyer. Is this a nefarious status-quoist problem or a problem with curtailng civil liberties.
OK. But then should we not amend 498a rather than throw out the aadhaar baby with the bad-law-xyz bathwater?
Shouldn't 498A and other badly written laws subject to misuse be changed anyway, regardless of aadhaar or not? So why take aim at aadhaar using 498A's shoulder, sir ji?
One thing I have seen in India is people are not pro-active against such silly and idiotic regulations but only start crying once they are personally affected by it, until then they are very happy about entire state of affairs.
Sounds like human nature to me. no? Even the best intentioned regulations/laws can be misused, no? So the solution is to not have laws at all?
Also, goes back to your original lament in the first para, sir. Perhaps, some Indians are perhaps innately like this only. Perhaps, non amount of anything can change that. Perhaps this is what desi status quo is like only.
So you have a few acquaintances about whom you do not have a high opinion in the first place, you think they have made their wealth illegitimately (you think) and their response to your query gives you another tool to validate your own pet theories.
Of course "their" concerns are 'illegitimate' and based on [petty] pet theories. Thou art being judgemental or what, here, eh?
But of course, its easy to see why. You see, 'they' are very different from your vaunted self whose respected concerns can only be purely legitimate and who have no need to ground conclusions in any chi-chi data - anecdotal or otherwise - to validate any non-pet theories. Perhaps only.
They may have illegitimate concerns regarding these developments, but just because the wrong people are opposing it doesn't mean that the entire scheme is pure and noble-intentioned as gangotri water.
Wah-wah. What a clever reference, respected sir. 'Gangotri water' and all that. Much like the 'Hindu rate of growth' reference which actually stuck.
Unless one is expecting 100% success rate, one should take up any solution approach that yields good predictive results at least most of the time. The points on which the likes of laloo, Jhadidi, RaGa, Owaisis, seeman etc oppose Modi sarkar have pretty good predictive power on whether or not they are good for India and Indians in the long run, would be my humble contention. Of course, feel free to disagree and all that.
What if tomorrow this same pet scheme is misused left, right and centre by a different party at centre at their political opponents, you won't then be as gung-ho about this as you are now, will you !
Fair point. However, a few things to consider, as always.
1. With, without or despite aadhaar, a vindictive Govt in India can make life miserable for any citizen should it reeeally put its mind to it. Armed with Brit era IPC laws to boot.
2. By your logic, no sarkar should make any laws at all, since, oh, a subsequent one can always twist and misuse it. No?
Anyway, my last on this. Feel free to have the last word, should you want to. G'bye and G'luck on this topic. Ciao.
