The Great Indian Political Drama - 1 (Oct 2017 - Mar 2018)

[sanjayC]

^^^ Narco test was done on that Paki terrorist Ajmal Kasab -- was his consent taken?

[sanjayC]

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[sanjayC]

Tapan Ghosh
‏@hstapanghosh
15m15 minutes ago
Just came back from 3 day visit of tea gardens in North Bengal. Saw the pleasant effect of FCRA tightening of the Christian NGOs by @narendramodi . Many church and x-tian schools closed.

[shyamsp]

Now with withdrawl CBN is seen as dignified politician to be reelected for next 5 years. If BJP takes YCP it is even better for TDP.

Again in AP in 2019 it is 2 local parties battling without any National parties role unlike in 2014 when there was anger against Congress and some sympathy for BJP. TDP has positioned itself to retain next 5 years also.

TDP has been steadily eroded over the years. After the bifurcation it has become a non-entity in Telangana. The YSR party ate into its votebank steadily for over a decade...he won in 2014 to large measure because of the Modi wave and the LS and VS elections being held at the same time.

Now he is reduced to begging for votes from "minorities" calling himself their benefactor "Chandranna". Whatever development and benefits have come to the poor in Andhra have been from Modi's initiatives and schemes.

It is quite possible that Naidu is heading for another 2004-like defeat, and Shah and Modi have figured this out. They have their own plans and may be OK with hanging him out to dry if he insists on it.

That is not quite true. BJP/NM is non-entity in the state so is Congress after 2014. They had positive opinion on Modi, lease alone in the wave , but it got eroded in the last 4 years. TDP is well positioned in AP except in 1-2 districts where YCP dominates. Telangana is challenge but that was the plan for bifurcation anyway but it still in second position in vote share but not enough to win Assembly.

[Gus]

It's easy to say 'arrest and put them in jail'. Our justice system is a mess. the dmk slapped 18 cases on JJ after her reign of horror, her first term. egregious violations that had plenty of damning evidences. dmk arguably is more vengeful on JJ than bjp on congress.

she cleared all but one - the DA case, which dragged on for 18 years, and she was still able to overturn the conviction in KA high court with a judge like kumarasamy who blatantly had math errors in his judgment and brought down the number to 10% excess and used some precedence to clear her.

the worst part is - the public had some sympathy for her and part of that comes from antipathy towards dmk's misrule as well, but that is still a factor.

if you come at the king, you better not miss.

we see already how a "miss" on the 2G case is going to play favorably for dmk. it does not matter if it was a "fixed" assassination bid that was doomed to fail.

quoting my own post as the recent delhi HC giving karti relief points to how of all the institutions in India, the courts are the most trusted but he most corrupt.

let's see...this is a war and there will be many mini battles and some will be lost.

but this time modi has no option but to win. father son duo needs to be nailed as first step to take on the mother son duo.

[KL Dubey]

TDP is well positioned in AP except in 1-2 districts where YCP dominates. Telangana is challenge but that was the plan for bifurcation anyway but it still in second position in vote share but not enough to win Assembly.

That is what people said in 2004 as well. At that time he had released a Vision 2020 document in great confidence of winning, but it did not go that way. Right now he is busy releasing Vision 2029 and Vision 2059 documents.

[crams]

Guys, I am sure you watched that clip where Pappu in Singapore was struggling to address a tough question on why Indian economy was at its nadir during his family rule. His slaves of course were saying it was a 'stellar' performance. Another one, Pagalika, was downright hateful against Hindus by suggesting that if not for Pappu's grandpa, the guy who confronted Pappu would just be an idol-worshiping Hindu.

[KJo]

Guys, I am sure you watched that clip where Pappu in Singapore was struggling to address a tough question on why Indian economy was at its nadir during his family rule. His slaves of course were saying it was a 'stellar' performance. Another one, Pagalika, was downright hateful against Hindus by suggesting that if not for Pappu's grandpa, the guy who confronted Pappu would just be an idol-worshiping Hindu.

https://twitter.com/sagarikaghose/statu ... 3304425479

[hanumadu]

Tapan Ghosh
@hstapanghosh
8h8 hours ago
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Just came back from 3 day visit of tea gardens in North Bengal. Saw the pleasant effect of FCRA tightening of the Christian NGOs by @narendramodi . Many church and x-tian schools closed.

Some people on this forum keep asking what Modi did for Hindus. Here is one straight from their hero's mouth.

[SSundar]

Ofcourse it is personal. It is not business, it has never been business. It is a war between those who hate everything that is Indic with an unparalleled vengeance and those who want to respect & preserve our Indic heritage. This Ghose bitch is anyway a Christian so that's there too. But the sheer hatred for Hindus is just humongous, can't put it in words. These people will annihilate & genocide Hindus if they get a chance. This war is real and it has been waged upon us since 1947 when that brown sahib pompous Indic hating bastard Nehru became our PM.

Saar, any link to support this? This becomes more important in her rant today against all Hindus for RaGa being nailed today in Singapore. The irony there is that the questioner was not representing Hindutva/BJP but seemed to be a rabid supporter of Netaji SC Bose.

[SSundar]

Guys, I am sure you watched that clip where Pappu in Singapore was struggling to address a tough question on why Indian economy was at its nadir during his family rule. His slaves of course were saying it was a 'stellar' performance. Another one, Pagalika, was downright hateful against Hindus by suggesting that if not for Pappu's grandpa, the guy who confronted Pappu would just be an idol-worshiping Hindu.

https://twitter.com/sagarikaghose/statu ... 3304425479

Wah! So beautiful a performance... the video editing guy I mean. This is the RaGa equivalent of airbrushing bikini pictures of supermodels.

[KL Dubey]

Tapan Ghosh
@hstapanghosh
8h8 hours ago
More
Just came back from 3 day visit of tea gardens in North Bengal. Saw the pleasant effect of FCRA tightening of the Christian NGOs by @narendramodi . Many church and x-tian schools closed.

Some people on this forum keep asking what Modi did for Hindus. Here is one straight from their hero's mouth.

I have been saying this for a while but "some people" will not listen.

[chetak]

#BREAKING Centre's strong stand on TDP muscle flexing | 'Blackmail won't work': Sources | 'Can't stop defence purchases to make TDP happy' @aditi1407 shares more details

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/971644718969896960

[Hari Seldon]

Karnataka elections: BJP poll campaign picks up steam as Siddaramaiah falters (ET)

The money quotes, IMHO.

“Till about a month ago, Siddaramaiah was setting the agenda and we were responding to it. Our leaders messed up a lot of issues and Siddaramaiah’s image was doing the talking,” another BJP leader said. “This has changed now and we are seeing a slight shift towards our party, which we will do our best to capitalise on and win this state,” he said.

The leader pointed out that incidents like the attack by Congress MLA NA Haris’ son Nalapad on a customer in a bar, a circular issued by the police asking for withdrawal of cases against minority under-trials in the coast, a move by the state government to give work kits to journalists belonging to the minority community and advertisements only to newspapers owned by minorities have given his party talking points that are finding favour with the electorate.

“We are able to point to Congress goondagiri and dub the CM Mullah Siddaramaiah because they themselves are giving us the ammunition,” he contended. Some of Siddaramaiah’s actions have puzzled and disheartened his own inner circle, who are unable to defend them. A close aide of the CM cited the induction of Bidar South MLA Ashok Kheny into the Congress.

[chetak]

It's easy to say 'arrest and put them in jail'. Our justice system is a mess. the dmk slapped 18 cases on JJ after her reign of horror, her first term. egregious violations that had plenty of damning evidences. dmk arguably is more vengeful on JJ than bjp on congress.

she cleared all but one - the DA case, which dragged on for 18 years, and she was still able to overturn the conviction in KA high court with a judge like kumarasamy who blatantly had math errors in his judgment and brought down the number to 10% excess and used some precedence to clear her.

the worst part is - the public had some sympathy for her and part of that comes from antipathy towards dmk's misrule as well, but that is still a factor.

if you come at the king, you better not miss.

we see already how a "miss" on the 2G case is going to play favorably for dmk. it does not matter if it was a "fixed" assassination bid that was doomed to fail.

quoting my own post as the recent delhi HC giving karti relief points to how of all the institutions in India, the courts are the most trusted but he most corrupt.

let's see...this is a war and there will be many mini battles and some will be lost.

but this time modi has no option but to win. father son duo needs to be nailed as first step to take on the mother son duo.

The stay has been granted on a purely technical issue.

The agency will appeal in a higher court, hopefully by monday.

[Chandragupta]

Ofcourse it is personal. It is not business, it has never been business. It is a war between those who hate everything that is Indic with an unparalleled vengeance and those who want to respect & preserve our Indic heritage. This Ghose bitch is anyway a Christian so that's there too. But the sheer hatred for Hindus is just humongous, can't put it in words. These people will annihilate & genocide Hindus if they get a chance. This war is real and it has been waged upon us since 1947 when that brown sahib pompous Indic hating bastard Nehru became our PM.

Saar, any link to support this? This becomes more important in her rant today against all Hindus for RaGa being nailed today in Singapore. The irony there is that the questioner was not representing Hindutva/BJP but seemed to be a rabid supporter of Netaji SC Bose.

There is no 'evidence' as such but her education is Christian schools/colleges all across. Such hate cannot be just opinions, it is more than that. She has till date never spoken a word against Christianity and only made positive remarks about Jesus or Christian clergy including Pope. Her political slant is also in the same direction as that of the church. You simply have to see what Church is saying and then see what journos are saying, any journo who is repeating the same nonsense is on Church's payroll. With Sagarika this is 200% bang on. I have no doubt that she is a Christian.

Here are some of her opinions which you can contrast with her hate for Hindu dharma-

https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.c ... -ki-jai-2/
https://www.news18.com/blogs/india/saga ... 48014.html
https://twitter.com/sagarikaghose/statu ... 77?lang=en

[pankajs]

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/972148279747080192

TIMES NOW Verified account @TimesNow 20h20 hours ago

Never before revealed in public | How Congress sacrificed a patriot | Purohit pinned to Hindu terror | Rahul's mentor named in plot | Even Chidambaram was aware | Was Purohit defamed by design? @AnchorAnandN debates on #UPAInsiderReveals

DharmvirJangra @dharmvirjangra9 20h20 hours ago

#BREAKING RVS Mani Former Undersecretary MHA Revealed>There's a conspiracy against Hinduism. Rahul's mentor named in the plot, even Chidambaram was aware. Congress sacrificed d patriot. Deliberate attempt by d Congress govt. Col Purohit Pinned To Hindu Terror.
#UPAInsiderReveals

TIMES NOW Verified account @TimesNow 20h20 hours ago

He (Col. Purohit) would have broken the back of radicalisation. That’s why they framed him, says RVS Mani, Former Under Secy, Internal Security, MHA #UPAInsiderReveals

TIMES NOW Verified account @TimesNow 19h19 hours ago

BIG QUESTION: Can the Congress party be forgiven for allowing its leaders to defame the 'Hindu' community and deliberately portray it as one that encourages terrorism?

Join the @thenewshour debate by tweeting with #UPAInsiderReveals

[shyamsp]

TDP is well positioned in AP except in 1-2 districts where YCP dominates. Telangana is challenge but that was the plan for bifurcation anyway but it still in second position in vote share but not enough to win Assembly.

That is what people said in 2004 as well. At that time he had released a Vision 2020 document in great confidence of winning, but it did not go that way. Right now he is busy releasing Vision 2029 and Vision 2059 documents.

2014 is NOT 2004 so also 2019 is not 2004. BJP losing India was more shock than TDP losing AP back then in 2004. In 2004, anti-TDP factor among government employees and YSR rise via whole-state walk put TDP in bad position.

In 2014, TDP won easily because of bifurcation and Congress wipeout, and was nothing to do with Modi wave or whatever. AP follows its own politcal narrative than other states, esp North of it. TDP became the largest opposition party at the Center post Indira Gandhi assassination so even death wave didn't move AP political narrative.

Since 2014, TDP voting has gone up among people, YCP has gone down, Congress has retained 0 and BJP has become 0. This is ground reality but from here on how micro shifts happen till 2019 between TDP and YCP is to be seen. I don't think TDP will be in anyway sliding here on.

[shyamsp]

Karnataka and Rajasthan will be key for BJP to retain same position in 2019 at the Center or not. If Congress retains KA and gains Rajasthan, it can eat away many seats in then BJP territory in the North (given how we saw it in Gujarat). BJP can fall back below majority even if it retains UP.

[crams]

Guys, in discussing Pagalika and her 'sickular' ilk like other suspects: Burka Bibi, Thappad, Turdesai, Coupta, Shookla, Ayub, Naqvi, Omar Abdullah's keep etc; to name a few, its worth re-iterating that their obsessive 'secularism' has more to do with hatred of Hinduism than genuine respect and tolerance for all religions.

I recall there was a time in the mid to late 1990's when I used to hang out with those filthy "South Asian journalist" (SAJA) types in NYC (BTW: Turdesai would show up too, wonder who was covering his US sojourn expenses), it befuddled me as to why they would be so dead against BJP, "Hinduthva" etc. Mind you, I was somewhat neutral, not as much a die-hard believer in BJP/RSS that I am now, but their hatred of BJP/RSS/Hinduthva did not seem to have any rational basis per se. And the last straw that broke this camel's back was when TSPians and assorted goras would join the anti-Hinduthva BJP/RSS gang bang. I mean even if one were to give these disgusting pukes the benefit of doubt of being atheists or agnostics or genuine secularists, I could not rationalize as to why they would befriend hard core Islamists and allow them also to attack BJP/RSS/Hinduthva.

It was then that I realized that Hindu hatred was at the core of this so called 'secularism'. And when I dug further and deconstructed their minds, it became clear as daylight that colonial disease instilled in the minds of these pukes from the Nehruvian era is at the root of their sick minds. There was a direct correlation between anti-Hindu western "intellectual" propaganda and their thinking, and continues to this day. The most gory, seditious manifestation is the invention of "Hindu terror" during the hey days of MMS/Sonia abjectly handing over the moral upper hand on terror to TSP and its Islamist followers in India.

And there is a deep state in India that still pervades every organ of the Indian state that perpetuates this anti-Hindu narrative, and they swung into action from the day ModiJi took office. As Minhaz MerchantJi ntioned in a recent article, one of ModiJi's biggest failures has been that in 4 years, he has not been able to make a dent in the deep state's ability to undermine him.

Bottom line: I don't know whether Pagalika types are Christian converts, but what drives them is a colonial-disease driven veritable hatred of Hinduism as exemplified by her tweet attacking Hindus after Prof. Basu embarrassed her lover boy Pappu in Singapore.

[Sachin]

Bottom line: I don't know whether Pagalika types are Christian converts, but what drives them is a colonial-disease driven veritable hatred of Hinduism as exemplified by her tweet attacking Hindus after Prof. Basu embarrassed her lover boy Pappu in Singapore.

Off topic: There are lots of "born - Hindus" from our generation, and the immediate previous generation who have deep contempt for Hinduism as a religion. My observations are limited to subset of people who I meet in KL. I could identify some streaks/common trends in this limited sample.
i) among our previous generation there existed a large group of people who did not overtly benefit from being a "Hindu". Many of them came from orthodox families who were even very ritualistic etc. But when times changed, their previous "Hindu" life style gave nothing to comfort them. The vedas they learnt, the type of professions they took up; all became useless when times suddenly changed. For them the religion was just an empty show with no deep meanings.
ii) many Hindus; especially from the SC/ST groups of our generation & the previous ones firmly believe that all the ills they suffered were because they were "Hindus". Many don't realise that their ancestors suffered, but they were treated harshly by others from non-Hindu religions as well.
iii) in our own generation a lot of "Hindus" had to study in X'ian convent schools (because Govt. schools were of poor quality), and migrate to the Islamic countries in the Middle East. Many such characters soon get a deep inferiority complex, that "Hindu" religion actually was of no use to them. Every thing they gained, was because of the "benevolence" of other religions. This group generally have given up on any form of open show of Hinduism, may celebrate a few festivals out of necessity.

[crams]

Sachin, I would also correlate for the most part, exceptions notwithstanding, there will be a low IQ with these overt pompous anti-Hindu types like Pagalika.

[shynee]

Farooq Takla got his passport in 2011 using forged documents. It was issued within 24 hours when Chidu was the Home Minister.

[fanne]

I have a feeling, among many king pins in UPA (Madame and her handlers being the one), PC was one other important one. He made lots of money through corrupt means. Being that he is a Harvard graduate and a lawyer (wife being lawyer and FIL being a judge), he knows how to hide his foot prints. Not only that, apart from being corrupt (absolute power corrupts absolutely, absolute power corrupts immoral people to the extent that they become devils), he was evil, spied on Pranab Mukherjee (his own party), coined Hindu terrors (simple delusion, I can do it, so I will do it), put many innocent people to death. He is should not be left. The whole c-system will come to help him, but we must persist.

[Karthik]

Guys from MH, who is N Rane? Why are people unhappy about him joining BJP?